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Old 11-25-2006, 04:44 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Jefferson View Post
BOTTOM LINE: Why didn't the kid either produce his student ID, or leave when he was asked?
I have to chuckle these days when you guys keep trying to drag the conversation back to this.
NOBODY IS DEFENDING the kid.
He SHOULD HAVE acknowledged he shouldn't have been in that area, and left. Promptly.

The thing we are ACTUALLy debating is the POLICE action which came next.


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That's the bottom line. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything else is a result of his refusal to do one of those two things - which are CLEARLY campus policy.
"Everything else is a result of..."???
No. The police DO have some culpability for their actions.

A cop tells a car to pull over. He doesn't do so promptly, so the cop shoots the driver in the head.
Obviously a "result" of his "refusal"...

The issue here is discussing the appropriate level of police response.
People on YOUR side of the fence want to ignore that question, and just assume that the police's actions were justified based on his initial refusal to leave.
Not true.
And moreover people on your side of the fence seem incapable of defending the police actions without blindly assuming that they were justified just because this kid didn't leave promptly.
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