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Originally Posted by sgtdmski  Gays are not forbidden to join JROTC. For that matter one's sexual preference is not even inquired about in JROTC, ROTC or the Military, hence the don't ask, don't tell policy. | I'ld be curious to see that in writing regarding the JROTC.
As for the ROTC and the military, gays are forbidden even if it isn't "inquired about". Do you deny that? Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski Furthermore, it is only in the Military where if one admits to being a homosexual of their own free will that they will be dismissed from the service. | "President Charles M. Vest has appointed a committee to investigate the policy that prohibits homosexuals from participating in the Reserve Officers' Training Corps. " Vest appoints new group to study ROTC gay policy
"DOD Policy
The Department of Defense (DOD) policy on gays in the military also applies to ROTC. [1]" ROTC Task Force Report: Section 2
You'll have to prove your claim... Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski As to your contention that the individuals are not being forbidden to join JROTC, that is based upon faulty logic. JROTC requires classrooms in which subjects based upon the military are taught and the school children earn credits for electives. | 1) JROTC requires ROOMS. Not "classrooms".
2) There is nothing in "freedom of association" which dictates that "credits for electives" must be distributed.
I could start up a "Gay Marching Band Corps" group in a high school, and kids would be "free" to associate with it, but I would have no "right" to demanding that "credits for electives" be honored. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski In order to be a member one must attend the classes, as such, if the school bans the JROTC, they are banning the classes and without the classes the students would not be members of JROTC. | You are stepping WAYYYY beyond the bounds of "freedom of association" right now. Freedom of association does not guarantee that a group will be able to give all the benefits it wants to, like "credits"...
Suppose my "Gay Marching Band Corps" were to insist that we meet in the principal's office at noon, and he refused. Does that mean he has acted against my freedom of association? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish."
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