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Old 01-10-2007, 12:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The muslims are the problem in the ME. They will not recognize Israel. That is the problem. They have to face reality and learn to live in the present. As long as your brothers think this way, there will always be a problem. Why can't your brother muslims live in peace with Israel?
Well aprt from the fact that Israel violates one UN resoluton after another, encroaches upon palestinian land, bombs Gaza indiscriminately, engages in state terrorism, ISRAEL ALSO denies anybody the right to question their existence.

While i agree that the muslims must come to term with Israel's existence, Israel must accept that outside the jewish faith, the existence of Israel is dubious at best.

The FACT is the Israel is an artificially created nation, torn from the heart of plestinian land. Since it is now a viable state NOW however, it must live on. It CAN NOT BE ELIMINATED.

BUt neither can peace come if the world does not accept that the Arabs questioning the legality of the Israeli state is not an unjust question. It is a basic right for the arabs to ask this question, and they deserve an answer.

carving out a nation from the body of an old nation and populating the nation with immigrants and THEN demnading that none question the legality of such action is unfair and arrogant.

The Muslims MUST live and present and accept Israel. But likewise Israel must accept that it cannot claim divine right to that land. Doing so only forces the arabs to claim divine right to the same land.

If the arabs accept Israel, then Israel must accept the following:

1) UN resolution calling for an immediate stop to illegal settlements
2) The palestinian right to self determination ( this includes electing ANY government they choose. Who is Israel on any other nation to disallow the results of the fairest electiont he ME has seen)
3) Arab disagreement about Israel's right to exist. Accepting that it is a legitimate question is only fair. It is also not a threat to their existence since the question is one of HISTORY. How Israel is TODAY is a different situation which CAN NOT be solved by the dissolution of the Israeli state i.e the Arabs will have to accept that Israel is NOW a viable state and therefore must be taken as a legitimate part of the ME picture today.
4) Blocking Gaza air space, ports and access is NOT THE PROPER WAY. Desperate people dying of hunger and repeated bombings will take desperate measures for their self defense ( like suicide bombings). Would YOU do any different if somebody decided to take califonia and call it their own, after which they proceeded to block and/or bomb the remaining US states?
How can you claim moral superiority over a people that reacts desperately to extreme conditions caused by an encroacher.
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