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Originally Posted by vharlow  There is no one more self righteous and arrogant than the Muslims who are claiming to take over the world for Islam! | RIghto.. No doubt about that. Likewise it is arrogant of the US to claim to spread (read "impose") democracy on other nations WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. It is also arrogant to deny the results of a fair election just cuz you don't like the result. Quote:
Originally Posted by vharlow Europe is in big trouble! Take over? Take over what? They can't solve their own problems, and are about to be taken over by Muslims! The Euopeans are reproducing themselves into oblivion and are fearful of their own immigrant populations who are running amuk. THEY are indeed, hoping those same immigrants will work, pay high taxes, and support their social programs. | Ur right.. Europe IS facing issues with the immigrants. But they are working on it and trying to reach some form of consensus. There is no imposition of culture on anybody.
That is why Europe is goin to be more stable, more secure from terrorism, with greater consensus in the population than the polarised US. In fact it already IS.
"taken over by muslims". WHat type of silly fear rhetoric is that. Muslims are still a MINORITY. Europe is still DEMOCRATIC. You believe the european democracy cannot hold the threat of "Islamic" totalitarianism at bay? Are the european societies so weak that any bully can come in and take over?
That's not a possibility and claiming that it's about to happen is just not a correct assumption. Quote:
Originally Posted by vharlow The US is always sincere, for the amount of time it takes the media to start whining that it's a bit difficult! Those countries have to learn to live peacefully amongst themselves, and compromise with each other. Just stop killing each other, and all will be well. The US would just like to come home. | Dude.. The US is about as sincere as any other nation in the world. No more and no less. It is foolish to think that the US is always sincere. What is sincere about central american covert operations ( the Contras, Noriega ).. What is sincere about supporting one cruel dictator ( King abdullah of Saudi Arabia) while toppling another ( saddam ). What is sincere about implementing elections in palestine and then refusing to accept the result?
Please don't misunderstand me. i am not calling the US the devil right now. I am only taking issue witht he statement that the US is always righteous and sincere. The US is a state made up of humans. As such it is succeptible to the same weaknesses as any othe rnation. Let's not kid ourselves by saying the SOMEHOW the US has managed to avoid ALL weakness and that the government is run by supermen ( and women).
The nature of International Politics is seedy and dubious at best. In order to be a player, the US has (like other nations ) had to engage in less than ethical actions on numerous occasions. It's called REALPOLITIK. Love for all, Hatred for none |