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Originally Posted by Jefferson  You have no thought of any kind to returning the area of Saudi Arabia to those who were living there before Muhammad's reign of terror.
! | Christ jeff... The people living there before mohammad are STILL THE SAME PEOPLE. Who the hell was it that converted? The arabs of the arabian peninsula.. Who USED to live there? The arabs of the peninsula. Who still lives there?? The arabs of the peninsula. There is nothing to give back as they are STILL IN POSSESSION OF THEIR OWN LAND. Apart from the fact that they are subjugated by some of THEIR OWN PEOPLE.. wholly supported by the US i might add.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson So why are you Muslims so doggedly determined to believe that Israel has to return the land to people who only recently inhabited it? Israel, as a nation, existed and inhabited the land LONG BEFORE there were people who even called themselves Palestinians. And the history of the these supposed Palestinians is, itself, littered with blood-shed and insanity.
So here's the deal - something you and all Muslims need to understand: If you want peace, get over your obsession with annihilating Israel. LEAVE THEM ALONE AND THEY WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE! This has been proven repeatedly. The nation of Israel has the right to exist, and they have the right to NOT have Muslims going out of their way to try to kill innocent Israeli citizens.
Until the Muslims stop terrorizing Israel, THERE WILL BE NO PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
Certainly a peaceful Muslim such as yourself can see that!
LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE! LET THEM GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS AND LIVES! | Well yes i CAN actually see that terrorism is not a sustainable policy. However it is the palestinians who have been backed into a corner.. Not the Israelis. The simple fact is that Israel has conventional weapons ( TONS of them) whereas the palestinians don't. Suicide bombings are a battle tactic.. One employed because of the extreme hopelessness of their situation.
What i was trying to say is that BOTH NATIONS are stuck in their own ego. Neither can compromise where it is important. At least not as long as both sides believe they are so righteous that they could not possibly admit any wrongdoing anywhere.
See that is an objective and practical view. YOUR view on the other hand is blatantly partisan , and essentially based in your prejudice against muslims, rather than any feelings of love for the jewish people.
As long as you seek to place blame squarely on one party, you are completely excluding the possibility for a solution. The world is not black and white. If it was, then the US would have emerged victorious in all their armed conflict. Funnily though they have NOT. THey have destroyed PLENTY.. but they have gained nothing.
War is not a solution.. it is a PROBLEM. Love for all, Hatred for none |