In as much as they should have taken Iraq at the Gulf war, should have could have it did not happen.

4) "You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in stating that the muslim communities in the world ought to pull themselves together and get a hold of Iraq.. However it is not that easy because:
a) Iraq is a desperate country with desperate people. Speaking peace to desperate people is not of any use until their desperation is dealt with."

Someone elses desperation can not be blamed on the American people. As much as you or anyone else would like to blame Americans for the rest of the worlds problems. It still remains that those problems existed long before. Heck if America does not get involved we are blamed for standing by and doing nothing.

It is really easy to attempt to lay your problems off on another country. A pre existing problem was a problem prior to America being asked by some of these secretarian groups to help because they were being wiped out and like diseases that hate was spreading. It came into our borders and destroyed our citizen. That was an act of war on a nation that did not want war. So since the lack of being a "cohesive unit" as you call it, part of your religious sects started a war. Now you wish to blame this whole situation on the victim of "Islamic" "jihad" extremist. If you cannot get a handle on it how can you blame America for not getting a handle on it as quickly as you would like?

b) The "Islamic" front is NOT a cohesive unit as many westerners would like to believe. Apart from sectarian violence, there is a huge divergence in how the sects wish to handle the problem internally. Some favor a violent primitive "jihad" situation, where others wish for a more consensual peace.


The word "hypothesis" states it all. It is only a matter of slighted opinion.

Ben Ladin was merely an unhappy rich Arab. Since he did not want to start a war against his own family he used his money and influence to create hatred towards American citizens that merely wish to live in peace and take care of their own families. That is fact.


Since there are "disillusioned muslim youths" then
"The peaceful moderate muslim front" needs to put more effort into a solution.

"That front on the other hand CAN NEVER EMERGE until AQ stops monopolising the right to voice complaints to the US. This can only happen is moderate muslims feel that their grievances will be heard and dealt with fairly on a proper platform.

The US cannot win anything if it attempts to IMPOSE "peace, democracy and the american way" on people. It can only win if the "muslims" accept it in their hearts. And NOTHING will be accepted in ANYBODY's hearts as long as the US is bombing their cities and incarcerating their citizens."

Come up with a plan then to stop the hatred and killing. Spouting against Americans only creates another avenue of distrust. Keep in mind it was the people on our soil were attacked first.

Regardless of how "moderate Muslims" feel if you cared about peace you would start working towards that now for the sake of your children and grandchildren. You don't spew out hatred at people who really could have cared less what you did prior to the time they were attacked. Most people in America (98%) go to work each and day to simply take care of their own families. In America on a whole that (98%) even takes care of each other by providing health and welfare programs for the poor and needy. Regardless of how you veiw it, that is the way it is here.

I hate as much as anybody to see on videos seemingly innocent peoples houses being searched for weapons. Those few I have seen on video were necessary in Iraq due to the terrorist take over in villages. How would you propose the men and women being shot at by militants react? Do you have a better proposal or solution?

The other option would be pull out fully and let the innocent there in Iraq be taken over by the violent. Is that what you want?