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Originally Posted by sgtdmski So today the story goes, Reagan didn't do anything to hasten the collapse of the Soviet Union. |
That's not what I said.
That's not what the articles I quoted said.
In fact, if you actually READ what was being said, you'd see that Reagan WAS getting credit for "hastening" the collapse of the Soviet Union.
But he did not CAUSE the collapse.
And the SCALE by which he "hastened" the collapse is seen on the scale of months.
Not CAUSING the collapse, but "hastening" the collapse by months.
Got it?
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski Yet even former members of the Soviet Union state otherwise. KGB General Oleg Kalugin states, "Reagan and his views disturbed the Soviet government so much they borede on hysteria. Ther were cables about an imminent crises. He was seen as a very serious threat." Yevgeny Novikov, a senior staffer of the Communist Party Central Committee claimed that, "There was widespread concern and actual fear of Reagan on the Central Committee. He was the last thing they wanted to see in Washington." |
And the CONTEXT of these statements is where???
Were they talking about fearing Reagan's finger on the button?
Or were they actually talking about how his policies would lead to the Soviet Union's FINANCIAL down-fall?
Funny how no mention of economics is present in your quotes...
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski Reagan called the Soviet Union and evil empire and he was ridiculed by academia and the main stream media. Reagan proclaimed that the Soviet Union would be left on the ash heap of history and these great members of the academia made their predictions.
Looking back now we see who was right and who was wrong. |
History is written by the victors.
Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski The amiable dunce knew more about the workings of the world than these highly estimed professors. To this day it still pisses them off. That is why they are so eager to rewrite the history, and you join them in excusing their ignorance. |
I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED half the things you're babbling on about.
Yet somehow I am "excusing their ignorance"...
When you rejoin reality and want to discuss what I ACTUALLy said, let me know...
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski For 70 years the liberal have embraced the Keynesian economic model of increasing spending to stimulate economic growth, yet only complain when Republicans use the same model. So it is fine for the democrats to do this, but not for the republicans. |
Yeah. That's OBVIOUSLY what I was saying...
NOT!
Just out of curiousity.
Is THIS the segment of the Keynesian model that Republicans use???
Keynes and redistribution
Keynesians and redistributionists tend to associate with each other. Keynes, in the twenties, wrote about a hydro-electric project. In his opinion it would have been better if the rewards of the project had gone to the worker-builders rather than to the investers who had financed the project.[citation needed]
Keynesians believe that fiscal policy should be directed towards the lower-income segment of the population, because that segment is more likely to spend the money, contributing to demand, than to save it. Keynesians also tend to go further than Keynes himself, and to believe that all savings is excessive savings.
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski The simple fact remains, I will agree, the Republicans in Congress have abandoned their conservative principles. The recent election was not a repudiation of conservatism, but that of liberalism. |
Yeah. And that war thing?
TOTALLY not an issue for the last election at all. Everybody is completely behind the president on that.
People were FIRING the "conservatives" because they were too "liberal", and then putting the democrats, typically "liberal", in place instead...
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski For it was moderate republicans that were shown the door. |
And how many of the republicans who weren't shown the door support Bush in his Iraq policy?
How many of the republicans who were shown the door don't support Bush on Iraq?
And do you have any substantiation for YOUR claim?
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski They forget their basic principle and paid the price. I say good riddance, this opens the door for the conservatives to take the party back. |
Cause that's OBVIOUSLY what will happen if you put the democrats in power instead...
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