Originally Posted by Antithesis

There's also a difference between defending and pardoning America. Just because yur proud of this country doesn't mean it's perfect. Are you ready, A1, to admit that this country, despite being powerful, mostly free, and financialy secure, is controlled by big money families and de facto royalty, or that the government has been in the pockets if massive corporations for years?

This is worse with the military. Just because our armed forces are fighting honorably does not mean they are in an honorable fight. To connect the two and declare them one in the same is presumptuous and wrong, and to say anyone is "unpatriotic" for expressing this viewpoint is even worse.