Well personallyi believe that god made man in his image. From that i infer that human perfection is not only a possibility .. it is an INEVITABILITY. In spite of the disheartening number of atrocities committed by humanity through the ages, i still think that we have progressively gotten better at handling things. No doubt it will take centuries even millenia yet to become "perfect".. but i have no doubt that it can happen.

Well in that case denmark would be a nation of hypochondriacs.. Which i can assure you they are not. Free healthcare has only one result. A happier healthier population that is free of a basic burden to focus their minds and energies productively. It's a simple concept. If you are freed from the tension of SURVIVING, you have the energy to DEVELOP.

Again you have this awful notion that poor people invariably spend their money on booze and cigarettes. That's just a sweeping generalization that demonizes poor people. Let me tell you something about that.

It is true that poorer classes often have a higher level of dependence on various inebriating substances. However this is a result of their social situation. It is a direct indication of how painful it is to be poor and unable to afford even some BASIC HUMAN NEEDS. Addicts from under priveliged backgrounds aren't looking for a good time. They are trying to excape from the suckiness of everyday living. Given the choice between health insurance which may or may not save your life int he future, and the IMMEDIATE relief of various substances, it is hardly surprising that they often wrongly choose the option for immediate relief.

Well i think its VERY SAD that you have to be rich in order to matter. So your right to humane treatment should depend upon the size of your bank account?

Listen NOWHERE in the WORLD have the RICH ever been discriminated against in favor of the poor. It just does not happen.

Well the concept of a meritocracy is that a man is rewarded according to his ability. However in order for it to be a TRUE meritocracy, ALL participant in the race of life have to start at the same starting line. THAT is what i mean by equality.

If a person simply does not have access to basic survival needs like healthcare and basic success needs like education, then how can you claim that he is being rewarded according to his ability. I mean it's like handing one man a jackhammer and the other a feather duster and then asking them to compete on who can break a stone to pieces the quickest. DO you really think that the man with the jackhammer ( who will invariably win ) won the competition because of his ability? Nope my friend, he won because he just happened to have the tools available to him while the other did NOT.

Well we shall just have to agree to disagree. In a true democracy, the PEOPLE, through equal representation should decide. Setting taxes according to the wishes of the people is DEMOCRACY.


So what?? How does that affect the underpriveliged inner city youth who has no real opportunity to study or to stay healthy? A large penis doesn't protect you from cancer ( if you get the analogy)

Well nobody needs to take care of me. Thankfully i have supported myself from the time i left home at 18. In fact that past 2 years i have been supporting my family cuz my dad's business went bust. Now if we weren't lucky enough to be danish citizens, i don't even know if either of my parents would have surivived. Thanks to the availability of free healthcare, my mom got cancer treatment and my dad got heart surgery when it was needed. And it didn't matter how much money we were making.

While i understand the concept of individualism, you tell me.. How would YOU have felt if both your parents got terminally ill and you couldn't afford to have the treated. I want free healthcare for everybody in the world simply because i know what its like to not be able to afford treatment. Trust me, part of individual happiness is the feeling that your fellow man has the same facilities as yourself. Whether he deserves it or not. God will hold people accountable in the end. It is only my job to make sure everybody is taken care of. I'll do the caring, and leave the punishing to God.
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Why if they are too high, and the government has too much money?

Well the american government has never had too much money, nor has any other government that i know of. I mean at least in america everything is grossly underfunded ( apart from the military ). So let's talk about THAT possiblity when it becomes a REALITY. OF COURSE there should be tax cuts if the government has nowhere to spend the money for the wellbeing of the citizens.. however that is not a reason to keep public institutions underfunded.
It is not possible for people to have equal ability. But it is CERTAINLY possible for people to have EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. And that does not exist in the US ( and most other nations ) simply because SOME people can afford to have a good health and good education, while others CAN NOT. No matter how honest and hardworking a ghetto dweller is, he still has to fight a LOT HARDER than the guy with the Ivy league education, the best medical services int he world and the trust fund

hahahahaha.. well your military won't mean a thing when your citizens are dying of hunger, living under the stars, dying of curable diseases and dying by the thousands in disaster areas WITHIN THE NATION.

More people die in the US from lack of healthcare, gun related crime, pollution, poverty, malnutrition etc. than do from invasion, terrorism and other 'evil' foes.

The illusion that america could be invaded at any moment is an unwarranted fear continuously reinforced by successive administrations to make you citizens of america sacrifice your rights, your priveliges, your health, your education to fund the military. Is it not a bit suspicious that the government can't afford to pay for medical care for its citizens, but has such an abundance of money for war that 12 BILLION $ in CASH were mysteriously "lost" in Iraq.

I'm not attacking the fighting men and women and i am not attacking your right as a nation to defend yourself. I am just questioning how it is possible that BILLIONS can be thrown out the window with NO RESULTS TO SHOW FOR IT on one side, and yet people insist that there isn't money enough to spend on the health and wellbeing of the hard working civilians.