Yet the USSR was the greatest example of socialism/communism that ever existed, and now it finds itself on the ash heap of history. And you are right no socialist ever defended Stalin or Lenin, they just ignored them and continued to proclaim the great virtues of the system. Yet in order to enforce the system you needed a Stalin and Lenin.

I stay in my field because I am good at my job, it pays well, and I enjoy the work that I do.

I am not making assumptions. I have never stated being against Medicaid or Medicare, or giving assistance to those who truly need it. I do have a problem with those who abuse the system. I have grown tired of seeing the drunks and the addicted come in and receive free health care while there are those in this country who work hard and cannot afford the treatment. That is my problem. The choices we make dictate the lives we lead, and unfortunately the safety nets have become so entangled with those who continue to make bad choices, alcohol and drug addicts, yet those who truly need the help slip through. I have no problem with helping those who work and still struggle, but have a big problem with those who don't work and receive all the help.

Again the choices we make dictate the lives we live. Hell even the UN has declared that single parent households are bad for children, hell that is something that conservatives and Republicans have been saying for the longest time, now perhaps since the UN has finally come out and said it, perhaps the left and the Democrats will finally listen. The single mother with children working two jobs is a result of the welfare bureaucracy. It punished those who sought to marry to take care of their children by not giving benefits, as result today nearly 1/3 of all children live in single parent households.

As far as ghetto dwellers, they have low incomes because of the high crime rates. Business do not wish to set up in places where they have to pay more for their business because of crime. The very people who need tough law enforcement measures are the ones who decry them the most. Again, choices made.
Unfortunately we cannot provide the care for everyone. That is the simple fact, and until such time as we find a way to help those who truly need the help then the problem will remain. Far too many people pay far too much in taxes, both income and payroll, to support those who are unwilling to support themselves. If you don't want to work, why should those of us who do have to take care of you. You made the choice no live with the consequences. If you don't like it, then change you lifestyle.

I agree that the system should get better but it is not. That example I gave you came from 2004. Bureaucracy will always be inefficient. They need to justify their existence so they seek to help as few as possible in order to show their need for additional funding. As long as we continue to reward incompetence at the expense of competence the system will never change. This is basic management theory that is taught to all who take Public Adminstration. Bureaucracies seek to perpertrate their own existence, by being slow and ineffiecient or always looking for new people to help.

First off I do not believe it is a good principle. Secondly I argue the inefficiency of its implementation merely as an example.

You talk in idealistic abstracts. Once you make something free, everyone will seek to abuse the system. It is that simple. I see it now with Medicaid and Medicare, with a universal system you will only see it worse.

And life ain't fair!!!!!! You are right, money talks and bullshit walks, but crying about it doesn't change it. What does is figuring out why you are in the situation you are in and making changes to your own life to changes. Quit making excuses and do something about it or you deserve what you get.

And taxes fall under the law, so immediately you are ignoring equality.

But our country is based upon equality not upon who can afford it. Everyone should be treated the same, thus equally. ANytime you set out to treat one group different than another you break that promise.

The ability for Mr Gates to keep most of what he made is what made his creativity take off. He was not hindered by having to worry that for his hard work, the government would take his property and use if for all, instead he was able to create and sell to make his own profit.

The full implementation of socialism does exactly that. The basic premise will remain that from each according to his ability to each according to his need. Those with need will receive more and those with ability will be required to provide more, eventually it leads to a system will people will all want and nobody will want to provide.

But it is a punishment for those who work hard and succeed. Most Americans value hard work and taking care of their own, so why should they be forced to allow government to do this, this is not what our country was founded upon, nor is it what we want. THose in this country who do want it should move to where it is offered, and allow those of us working to get ahead to do so. It has been our desire and drive that have made us the largest economic country in the world. It is why the US leads in all types of discoveries that have benefited man in the past 50 years.


Taxes ensure nothing, they demand it. Charity is the voluntary giving, and this country has remained the most charitable in the world year in and year out, despite our heavy tax burden. Year in and year out we continue to give money to charities that help individuals, most of which do so more effectively than government ever could.

Cutting taxes leads to growth, more jobs and more opportunities.

Socialism is slavery and will always be slavery....sorry you don't recognize it, but then you have always known it so perhaps you do not understand what freedom means.

dmk