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Originally Posted by Jefferson The religious extremism in America is not coming from the christian right.
The churches in America have virtually NO clout with the government - both Democrats and Republicans are trying to USE the church to get votes. That's all. | WoW! Stark contrast to what the religious right itself is claiming about their influence.
After George Bush was elected, they cheerily proclaimed that he was going to give them three SCOTUS judges, remember?
And then we have all the people who claim that this is a "Christian" nation...
One thing that was made public out of the whole "Ted Haggard" thing was talk about how religious leaders talk at least weekly to the president. But I guess that's "NO clout", eh?
Were you joking with that statement of yours? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish."
-- Jon Stewart
"Please don't judge others by your own standards."
-- Garysher |