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Old 03-03-2007, 05:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah preacher like i said i understand the precarious nature of Israel's existence. However you must admit that much of their activity particularly against the Palestinians is overkill and indeed uncalled for.

I mean so they give back Gaza, but shut it off from the rest of the world without giving it access to ports, airports or th ability to manage its own border. Also they continue settlements termed illegal by the UN.

Israel isn't spotless and much of their activity goes BEYOND legitimate self-defense into the realm of suppression and discrimination and outright warcrimes against the palestinians. Like i said the arab nations aren't spotless either, but in order for any solution to be reached, BOTH sides need to accept responsibility. The onus cannot be placed entirely with the arab/palestinians as it is now.

Lastly regarding this situation it is incorrect to say that Israel continues to be under threat of its existence from all its neighbors. For instance EGYPT already has diplomatic ties ( whcih means they have accepted Israels right to exist ) Jordan also has ties. Likewise the arab nations are getting past the concept of Israel's destruction. But this process would move a WHOLE LOT FASTER if Israel would stop bulldozing "suspected" militant hideout and expand their settlements into palestinian land. Of course activities like the AL Aqsa mosque debacle could also easily be avoided by giving the restoration job to a muslim nation like Egypt or Jordan.

This is not 1948 and Israel no longer needs to fear for its existence. No arab nation will invade again since Israel has a brilliant defence force PLUS nuclear capability ( lacked by ALL its neighbors )

Regarding Iran, can you tell me what the US feels about mandatory inspections on US soil. NONE of you would accept it as it is a direct violation of your sovereignty.. How then can you possibly think another sovereign nation would accept that which your nation will not?

Ownership of nukes is NOT a guarantee that they will be used.. However it DOES mean that other nations will think twice before fuckin with you. Is it so unthinkable that a nation would like that sort of power?

Also your view of Irani politics is quite unnuanced. Time magazine recently did an article about Iran. One thing that is noticable is that the younger generation is moving away from the confrontational stance of the older generation (to which ahmedinejad belongs) Even the Ayatollah has censured Ahmedinejad because he find his aggressive rhetoric a bit too much. Iranis aren't crazed fundos, and there is no reason to assume the WHEN Iran gets a nuke ( many years hence) that Ahmedinejad or his ilk will be in power OR that there is ANY Irani who would throw a nuke ANYWHERE ( Knowing FULL WELL that the first to initiate Nuclear war will be wiped off the map by the rest of the world) .
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