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| No it doesn't. All it means is you haven't found any evidence. Have you traveled the universe? How can you make such an arrogant statement. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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I said that there IS no evidence. (Note: Present tense.) And for the record, it's "arrogance" to claim to "know" something without being able to offer ANY evidence of that knowledge. THAT is arrogance. To ADMIT that we have no evidence is not arrogance. It's a fact. You think it's not a fact? Prove me wrong. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Is there any evidence that YOU know of? That YOU can show? If nobody can show any evidence, then it seems fairly obvious that nobody has any evidence to show. That's simple and obvious and intuitive. I can't believe you're belaboring that point. Quote:
I am saying that he BELIEVES he has the spirit of Jesus in his heart. And what I find COMPLETELY FASCINATING about this example is that you just said you MET A MAN who said that. Does that mean that YOU do NOT have the spirit of Jesus in your heart? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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He BELIEVES he has the spirit of Jesus, but has no proof of his claims. IMO, I don't call people "liars" based on that scenario. If he claimed to have proof or evidence of it, and then could not offer any, that would be an indicator. Why do you keep repeatedly asking me questions which have already been addressed? Do yourself a favor. Take out a pen and a paper. Write down on the paper "Foundit66 is not calling people "liar" because they say they know something about God". Take out some tape and tape it to the monitor. Maybe that will help you remember... "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Getting back on the subject of abortion, I am anti-abortion because I feel this act is murder, life is not a mistake. Abortion and physician assisted suicide cheapen human life. Doctors are sworn to protect life, not end it... even a life. In the womb, the baby reacts to environmental stimuli and shares many of the physiological features that define human life. Furthermore, most mothers who had an abortion suffer a great deal of mental and/or physical anguish due to their "choice". Abortion is a "choice" that very few people can feel good about. Teach children to respect sex and the responsibility that accompanies it. It makes better sense to prevent teen and unplanned pregnancies by not taking part in actions that cause pregnancy. "I am not ashamed of the Gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes." Romans 1:16 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Like in this statement of yours with regards to baby's reacting to environmental stimuli. That isn't always the case. There is a point in time whereby the embryo does not react to stimuli in the womb, nor does it have the capacity to do so. Do you object to abortion before there is reaction to environmental stimuli? Do you object to the day after pill? Do you know when the cut-off time-line is for the baby reacting, and not reacting to stimuli in the womb? Quote:
Was there actually a study done to confirm your claim? Or does it just sound good on a message board, and you have no evidence of your claim? Quote:
We can DO BOTH. We can have legalized abortion, AND educate our children on the risks of sex. And for the record Jaaaman, it makes NO sense to educate them SOLELY with the message that they shouldn't have sex. There have been a variety of studies on the issue, and REPEATEDLY they show that a FULL education of the SPECTRUM of options results in less teen-age pregnancy than the "Just don't do it" message. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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But that doesn't address what I said. Plan A) Teach kids SOLELY about abstinence, and SOLELY encourage abstinence. Plan B) Teach kids about ALL their options, and encourage them to make the best choice for themselves. Plan B has repeatedly been shown to result in FEWER teen-age pregnancies. Quote:
Teaching all the options for sexual education IS NOT "teaching anything goes". And it is a fact that teaching abstinence only results in MORE teen-age pregnancies than telling teen-agers of all their options. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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