ROTFLMAOL!!!

Here's the thing Paradox...

Knot and I were responding to your comment

Knot and myself are speaking from EXPERIENCE. Something YOU, as a man lack in when it comes to what is risky and you deem as 'pretty debatable' in regards to a hypothetical pregnancy. It's easy for you to sit here on a board, and say that the risks a woman undergoes may/may not be risky (or as you said, 'debatable' which implies 'untruthful') for her in a pregnancy.

Yet, here is Knot who's had babies and myself that has also had previous babies and am currently pregnant. Both of us have that experience of just how truely risky in a pregnancy by having lived through it previously or currently undergoing and facing the risks daily. We're not doing as you. We're not hypothesizing the 'what ifs'...We know personally just how dangerous it is. Furthermore, both her and myself live with the permenant physical affects/damages done to our bodies by carrying our babies full term. Physical problems that didn't go away when the babies were born, but that will continue to cause physical problems till our dying days.

The 'truth' of the matter is you have no idea what a woman will, does, or will continue to experience before, during, or after a pregnancy. In regards to what a pregnancy does to the woman's body, unless the man in question actually can become pregnant himself and carry a child to term in his body then deliver said child himself, you can only hypothesize about what may/may not be 'risky' until you've actually went through it yourself. When it's YOUR body that has to undergo the actual physical changes and difficulties.

I can't speak for Knot, but I find it humorous that males like yourself (not just you, but other males who've responded to the abortion threads as well) that are opposed to abortion, try to pretend and respond like you have the first clue what it does to the woman's bodies when the closest any of you may have been is just knowing or seeing a pregnant woman?

Of how easily you can say 'oh, it's debatable about if pregnancy is truely a risk or not', when you'll never be in the position to find out for yourselves so will never really be able to speak from the experience. Yet, you tell those who do have the real experience, as in two women who have/are in the position to know:

No, personal feelings AREN'T obscuring our ability to discuss it. It's your own personal feelings that are obscuring the fact you don't have the first clue what goes on in a woman's body when she's pregnancy.

We're speaking from experience. Something you don't have, nor will ever have, when it comes to discussing what a woman may/may not experience being pregnant.

I still say men have no right going about getting abortions.

Lol!
That pretty much sums it up doesn't it?

They consent to placing the decision in the womans hands.

You bring up a very good point that has not been discussed.

By giving men an equal say in abortion, one creates a situation where FORCED abortion can become an issue. Do we, as a society, want to see a situation where women are forced to undergo medical procedures because the man involved doesn't want the financial responsibility?

As I said in a previous post, the situations are NOT equal. Both have a financial responsibility to support a child born, but only the woman has the responsibility to provide sustenance from her own body. Also, I might add, only the woman (unless the couple are sharing financial responsibilities) is responsible for the bills involved in the pregnancy and birth. As I understand it, insurance companies will not cover the costs of a woman who is pregnant unless she is married to the man that impregnated her. She is solely financially responsible for such costs.

Actually, it's the anti choicers who 'belittle the whole process of creating new life'. When you tell some brain dead teenage girl who couldn't raise a pet rock, let alone a child, that she should gestate a child simply because her idiot parents didn't teach her about birth control, you belittle the process. Children are important enough that only those who are dedicated to having and raising them, are the only ones that should be having them.