Ohio may give fathers a say in abortion decision - Page 10

fxashun · 08-08-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by garysher

Also true!

Equality or not, its the women who is always left holding the baby, and it's the woman who has to make better choices than most men do.

I need to start a new thread about this subject

"Why women make bad choices about men - and then repeat them!"

It doesn't only happen with women who make bad choices about who will father their children, but also when women choose abusive husbands.

I quit dating single mothers because you usually find out pretty quick why they are "single".

A lot of women make bad choices, but then a lot of women ARE bad choices too. Or a mixture of both.

Catus Felidae · 08-09-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

Knowing that a man may place such a small amount of thought behind sex, you would think it would behoove women to put a little more thought into who they sleep with.

Why? Considering that we can 'fix' any pregnancy we don't want, it seems to me that men are the ones who should be more careful.

No sex before marriage,

Again, Why?

and no marriage to a guy who can't support himself, let alone a family.

You do realize that the traditional 'two parent family' is now a minority.

People always say that marriage and famly is in a decline.

It is.

The ideas behind both are as strong and valid as they ever have been, it's the people that are going to crap. It seems to be a worldwide problem.

What ideas would that be? That children are better off in a two parent home? That would pretty much depend on the parents. There are a lot of kids who find themselves in a better situation once one parent leaves.

garysher · 08-09-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Catus Felidae

What ideas would that be? That children are better off in a two parent home? That would pretty much depend on the parents. There are a lot of kids who find themselves in a better situation once one parent leaves.

Statistically children in single parent homes fare far worse than those with two parents.

They have worse health, less chance of going to college and more chance of ending up in jail.

Check the US Census bureau (http://www.census.gov), that well-known right-wing evangelical organisation, for more information.

Children from broken homes inevitably suffer because of the failure of their parents to provide a stable loving environment.

And it doesn't improve when children get dragged into "blended" families and are forced to co-habit with even more confused kids.

As its always the woman who bears the children the onus is on her to find the right partner to father and provide for her children.

It's not fair on women but it's true nonetheless.

Catus Felidae · 08-09-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by garysher

Statistically children in single parent homes fare far worse than those with two parents.

They have worse health, less chance of going to college and more chance of ending up in jail.

Check the US Census bureau (http://www.census.gov), that well-known right-wing evangelical organisation, for more information.

Children from broken homes inevitably suffer because of the failure of their parents to provide a stable loving environment.

And it doesn't improve when children get dragged into "blended" families and are forced to co-habit with even more confused kids.

Children of rich parents do better 'statistically' than parents of poor children. Does that mean poor parents shouldn't procreate because their children might not be in the good part of the equation.

Just because the parents stay together does not assure a 'stable loving environment'.

As its always the woman who bears the children the onus is on her to find the right partner to father and provide for her children.

It's not fair on women but it's true nonetheless.

And that is why a lot of women abort. Because some men are too damn busy shifting the burden of responsibility onto the woman rather than accept their own responsibilities.

garysher · 08-09-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Catus Felidae

Children of rich parents do better 'statistically' than parents of poor children. Does that mean poor parents shouldn't procreate because their children might not be in the good part of the equation.
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Read what I posted!

I never mentioned rich or poor, I said children of SINGLE parents statistically fare much worse!

Just because the parents stay together does not assure a 'stable loving environment'.

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But parents who split up almost guarantee instability for the children.

As its always the woman who bears the children the onus is on her to find the right partner to father and provide for her children.

It's not fair on women but it's true nonetheless.

And that is why a lot of women abort. Because some men are too damn busy shifting the burden of responsibility onto the woman rather than accept their own responsibilities.

So why do women have sex with men like that and put their children at risk?

And why do so many women marry the "wrong" man?

Are you saying that women are just incompetent when it comes to choosing a life partner? Or is it the men who are such smooth charmers??

That is my point.

sven_the_swede · 08-09-2007, 02:33 PM

A fetus is not a baby. This is a bit off topic but this is why I think beautiful ali should have an abortion. She's having health problems because of her pregnacy? Strokes and blindness and such? I think it's better off for her to abort the twins and either start again or forget about it. I worry so much about this beautiful woman.

dabateman · 08-09-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sven_the_swede

A fetus is not a baby. This is a bit off topic but this is why I think beautiful ali should have an abortion. She's having health problems because of her pregnacy? Strokes and blindness and such? I think it's better off for her to abort the twins and either start again or forget about it. I worry so much about this beautiful woman.

Well, the moment she asks for our input is the moment that this comment should have been been. Not before. It's poor form.

sven_the_swede · 08-09-2007, 02:48 PM

It's just that to see a beuaitiful woman kill herself over a clump of cells is so pointless to me. Ali and I go way back further and deeper then you ever know? If she strokes again she'll die an the fetus will die too, so what's the use? if only I'd married her when I had the chance than she wouldnt be in this perdicamint.

dabateman · 08-09-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sven_the_swede

It's just that to see a beuaitiful woman kill herself over a clump of cells is so pointless to me. Ali and I go way back further and deeper then you ever know? If she strokes again she'll die an the fetus will die too, so what's the use? if only I'd married her when I had the chance than she wouldnt be in this perdicamint.

Manners... Please utilize them.

sven_the_swede · 08-09-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by garysher

As its always the woman who bears the children the onus is on her to find the right partner to father and provide for her children.

It's not fair on women but it's true nonetheless.

that's why I say if a woman is preganant with the wrong man's baby and he ain't taking care of her the right way she is better off without him and the baby? And maybe if the guy didn't want his kid aborted he should of treated her better?

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