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Old 09-28-2007, 01:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Maybe somebody should print some warning labels. "Caution the state won't allow abortions if you are a pregnant and jailed for criminal activity."
Thats a good idea.

They should post signs like that in department stores and 7-11's !
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Has anybody considered the fact that most women in prison shouldn't be having babies at all?
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it is a shame that these women are pregnant when they are locked up for committing crimes. The fact is though on a whole they are guilty of crimes and they suffer the consquences of their crimes
Pregnancy is not a reason to pardon a woman convicted of a crime, OTOH, being convicted of a crime should not sentence a woman to continue a pregnancy which can only end in her losing her child.


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One suffers a certain amount of personal freedom rights when they commit crimes.
One suffers a LOSS of personal freedom rights for a TIME; an imprisoned person is supposed to pay for his crime and then get a fresh start; losing reproductive rights punishes a woman for her entire life.

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If they truly wanted abortions why didn't they get them before they were locked up?
Timing? She didn't know she was pregnant until she was already incarcerated. Or she didn't want an abortion until the incarceration meant she wouldn't be able to care for the child.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You do know the ACLU thinks that there ought to be warning signs on public bathrooms that they aren't supposed to be used for having sex.
So be careful what you ask for.
In the past I experienced a few heated discussions with certain persons claiming they had the right to do so in "public facilities".
The ACLU has little common decency in many matters of what should and should not be allowed to be displayed in public facilties. Now they want warnings displayed that sex is not allowed in public bathrooms?
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Pregnancy is not a reason to pardon a woman convicted of a crime, OTOH, being convicted of a crime should not sentence a woman to continue a pregnancy which can only end in her losing her child.

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Either way she loses the child but at least the child survives




One suffers a LOSS of personal freedom rights for a TIME; an imprisoned person is supposed to pay for his crime and then get a fresh start; losing reproductive rights punishes a woman for her entire life.
Serving time in prison for committing a crime has a lasting effect on anyone's life.

At least she has the joy of knowing she brought a new life into the world and won't have to wrestle with the guilt of having an abortion for the rest of her life.
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In the past I experienced a few heated discussions with certain persons claiming they had the right to do so in "public facilities".
The ACLU has little common decency in many matters of what should and should not be allowed to be displayed in public facilties. Now they want warnings displayed that sex is not allowed in public bathrooms?
I read they are re-modelling that famous Larry Craig airport bathroom and extending the partitions from ceiling to floor.

Why not do this in all public bathrooms to provide some privacy and avoid the problem of soliciting??
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Pregnancy is not a reason to pardon a woman convicted of a crime, OTOH, being convicted of a crime should not sentence a woman to continue a pregnancy which can only end in her losing her child.




One suffers a LOSS of personal freedom rights for a TIME; an imprisoned person is supposed to pay for his crime and then get a fresh start; losing reproductive rights punishes a woman for her entire life.



Timing? She didn't know she was pregnant until she was already incarcerated. Or she didn't want an abortion until the incarceration meant she wouldn't be able to care for the child.
The fact remains one loses certain inalieble rights when they commit a crime.

If she was so concerned about caring a fetus to term it should have be considered prior to her criminal activity.

Actions and reactions we pay the price for our actions and we suffer the out comes of our own choices. We lose certain rights when we do not obey the laws.
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I read they are re-modelling that famous Larry Craig airport bathroom and extending the partitions from ceiling to floor.

Why not do this in all public bathrooms to provide some privacy and avoid the problem of soliciting??
You'll have to take that up with the design architecs Gary. It still does not solve the problems of sexual solicitations in public bathrooms. It would give them more privacy though.
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You'll have to take that up with the design architecs Gary. It still does not solve the problems of sexual solicitations in public bathrooms. It would give them more privacy though.
Exactly. As long as can't see or here why should we care??

Two consenting adults and all that
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Actually the part of my post that you should have paid attention to were the parts where I said that I didn't consider an abortion care or where I said taxpayers shouldn't be forced to provide abortions. Those were the important parts. The comparison to boob jobs was related to whether taxpayers should pay, not a comparison to an abortion. But of course, I'm sure you knew that.

If a woman has the means for the abortion though, she should be allowed to have one. But all costs should be paid by the prisoner.

As for justice, I don't think it's justice to kill a developing human in the first place, so my justice and yours are already on differing planes.
So who will pay the WELFARE for the child until she is un-incarcerated?
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