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Old 10-03-2007, 01:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Like this...ummm..."real meaning?":


huˇman beˇing (plural huˇman beˇings)

noun Definition: 1. member of human species: a member of the species to which men and women belong. Latin name Homo sapiens.

human being definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta

Are you seriously trying to differentiate between "human" and "human being"??

A perfect example of the point I made two posts above!
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:14 PM   #62 (permalink)
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This reminds me of the threads about the normality, or otherwise, of homosexuality.

All the arguments that try to make homosexuality appear normal and ok rely on re-definition of commonly-understood language and widely-held concepts.

Concepts like sex and human being.

In the bizarro mundo of the secular progressive and the moral relativist anything is possible. And it's all just fine.
Well, I guess in the world of sophomoric troglodytes, like yourself, such people are the slaves of their own language.
Old 10-03-2007, 01:27 PM   #63 (permalink)
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So, within this quote, where exactly is the label "human being" used?

(Not that language definitions are objective anyway.)
So you are holding out for the "being" I assume. Sad absolutely sad.
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huˇman beˇing (plural huˇman beˇings)

noun Definition: 1. member of human species: a member of the species to which men and women belong. Latin name Homo sapiens.


Brilliant...okay. Where do germs fit in that definition?


As an aside, why is agreeing to use the actual meaning of words something you want to fight about? Don't you think being able to understand each other is important in discussion?
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Well, I guess in the world of sophomoric troglodytes, like yourself, such people are the slaves of their own language.
I wonder if there's a definition available that combines the words "sophomoric and troglodyte"?
Old 10-03-2007, 01:48 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Well, I guess in the world of sophomoric troglodytes, like yourself, such people are the slaves of their own language.

If you're accusing me of knowing what English words mean, and not trying to contort them into their opposite meaning, then I have to plead guilty!

But if you feel there is a difference between "human" and "human being" then feel free to carry on trying to explain it.

It all depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
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huˇman beˇing (plural huˇman beˇings)

noun Definition: 1. member of human species: a member of the species to which men and women belong. Latin name Homo sapiens.

Brilliant...okay. Where do germs fit in that definition?

As an aside, why is agreeing to use the actual meaning of words something you want to fight about? Don't you think being able to understand each other is important in discussion?
(I think you mean to ask about "germ cells"...not "germs.")

Well, where do fertilized eggs explicitly fit into that definition?

If you ask me, it could be argued that both germ cells and fertilized eggs could be described as "members," as this word is used in the definition above.

But, this just highlights the subjective nature of language itself.

In short, language doesn't exist unless people, themselves, create it.

Thus, all language, and its terms used within, are ultimately subjective.

So, who's definition of any language term is actually the correct definition?

The truth is, language is meant to convey ideas, rather than prove ideas.

So, I have to ask, why should you have felt the need to question my definition of "human being" in the first place?
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fxashun,

I wonder if there's a definition available that combines the words "sophomoric and troglodyte"?

Don't feel bad, my definitions of troglodyte and sophomoric are complimentary!

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Old 10-03-2007, 02:11 PM   #69 (permalink)
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In short, language doesn't exist unless people, themselves, create it.

Right, but they all agree on the words' definitions.

The truth is, language is meant to convey ideas, rather than prove ideas.


And how do you convey an idea without a common set of words that have specific, commonly agreed upon, meanings?
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(I think you mean to ask about "germ cells"...not "germs.")

No, my definition of "germs" includes "germ cells" but not "fertilized eggs" ....unless it is Wednesday, in which case, it is my personal shorthand for "Germans" - who may or may not have "germs".
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