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| Partisan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,680 Country: ![]()
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Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,224 Country: ![]()
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Then how come different dictionaries have different definitions for the same words? Quote:
When was the entire English speaking public consulted when different publishing companies wrote their latest editions of the English dictionary? Perhaps I missed that meeting. ![]() | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,224 Country: ![]()
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Perhaps you too, like Steven Colbert when he created new words, can have your say on the next edition of Webster's Dictionary. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: May 2006 Gender: ![]() Posts: 319 Country: ![]()
| Whatever floats your boat. Why get so upset? After all, I'm just creating my own subjective words to convey my idea that your arguments are silly. Hear's an idea: If you don't like what I'm saying, just redefine the meanings of my words until they say something you feel good about. That way you can have your own idea of what I said, and I will have my own different idea of what I've said and we both will be happy - though of course neither one of us will have actually communicated anything to the other. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shanghai Gender: ![]() Posts: 9 Country: ![]()
| A fertilized egg is nothing but a cell with the bare potential to become a human, but seeing many eggs are spontaneously miscarried, the potential is not all that high. It is not yet a human. Is stopping its potential murder too? How about individual sperms and eggs? Don't they have the potential too? Is masturbation mass murder? Quoth Carl Sagan (Indirect) in Billions and Billions. Murder refers to specifically taking a human life, but in the beginning, an egg only has the potential. It looks nothing different from embryos of other species for quite a while. So when does it become human? It is only considered 'murder' when an embryo displays traits that distinguishes itself from embryos of other species. Physically, a fertilized egg is very similar to our skin cell or the "germ cells" as mentioned above. They just have DNA from both the mother and the father, and may grow into a fetus and eventually a baby. I'm wondering though. If all are in mortal peril, assuming that it's physically possible and you can only preserve two, which would you save? Two children or two fertilized eggs (assuming there are no damage done to the mother)? Does the egg demand the same protection as a young child? Do you say that a human has died everytime there is a miscarriage? If not, then fertilized egg =/= human being... And murder is taking the life of a human being. Again, it just has the potential... They do not enjoy the same privileges. (However, my views are different for late abortions... I believe they are sufficiently 'human' to be protected by federal law) When politicians do stupid things, poke them! --- Stupidity against stupidity | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| A fertilized egg is nothing but a cell with the bare potential to become a human, but seeing many eggs are spontaneously miscarried, the potential is not all that high. It is not yet a human. Okay, You tell me. When does it become human? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shanghai Gender: ![]() Posts: 9 Country: ![]()
| Okay, You tell me. When does it become human? It's all a matter of perspective, but I would say it becomes human when it develop features that distinguishes itself from other types of embryo. I think human thought and the ability to perceive music as more than just 'sound' would make a fetus pretty much human. When politicians do stupid things, poke them! --- Stupidity against stupidity | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,907 Country: ![]()
| I don't think it's a matter of perspective at all. In this context, if a woman is pregnant, the growing life in her belly is for all intents and purposes a human. An infant may not be a teen ager, but you pretty much expect him to be one in a few years. The same applies to the fetus. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: May 2006 Gender: ![]() Posts: 319 Country: ![]()
| It's all a matter of perspective, but I would say it becomes human when it develop features that distinguishes itself from other types of embryo. I think human thought and the ability to perceive music as more than just 'sound' would make a fetus pretty much human. Thanks for answering OC. So you seem to believe that there is some point at which an embryo becomes a human being (your example being the ability to perceive music as more than just sound). Presumably you also believe that once it is determined to be human, it is entitled to its life. Is that a fair assumption? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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