Defending the Truth

I can vouch for the Northern European countries. When I was 15 I lived in Sweden and one whole school day was devoted to visiting the nurses at the "young adult sexual clinic" where we received great lessons about a variety of sexually related topics. The clinic serves only youth and provides free condoms and service (STD testing, etc).

The nurses showed the guys the testing swab used for STD testing as a preventative tool. No better way to promote the use of condoms

It is an incredible asset to youth and it is sad we don't have them in America because of "religious values" and lack of support for government social programs.

what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? (has anyone else ever heard that expression or had it used on them? maybe it's just my weirdo uncle . . . ?)

What the deuce does that mean?

I think it's just your weird uncle. I've never heard that one before.

what the deuce, that's great. sam says that all the time. but seriously, he does that whenever i make a point in an argument because either a) he's tired of me arguing or b) wants to change the subject. i'm not entirely sure what it means though . . . and to think he works for a research company. huh.

Hey, if you're tired of arguing or want to change the subject, go to a different thread. This one's about crime and abortion.

My zayde (That's Yiddish for grandpa) used to say "What the deuce."

that's just how he uses it, i kind of just wanted to say it. reactions are always interesting on here.

if its legal to kill an unwanted child it should be equally legal to kill an unwanted adult but unfortunatly its not. so while our country is committed to murdering its innocent future leaders, it seems so reluctant to give lethal injections to its guilty murderers, child molesters...they are entitled to rights?...an innocent child is not? criminals have already proven themselves to be a waste of space but the government insists on keeping them here and give them chance after chance...but all of those poor babies didnt even get one chance to prove anything. so while it could take 25 years for someone to get their well deserved death sentance. i could sentance this child im carrying right now, that i didnt want but will learn to love (my birth controll failed) to death and legally accomplish this murder today with no real questions asked. im no expert on the moral values of the human race, but something's wrong, very wrong. God must crying,and taking anti-depressants.
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The last time I checked, we have the death penalty in this country. There's a big difference between killing a potential human being, and killing an actual human being though. Steven Levitt's study suggests that by allowing abortion, we're killing potential future criminals, not future leaders. Women who seek abortions are usually poor, or don't feel that they want to have children. Their children are either unwanted or grow up in unsatisfactory conditions. Levitt's theory is based on the assumption that women are pretty able to tell when a good time to have a baby is, and what circumstances are necissary.

If you're no expert, then it's awfully presumptuous of you to assume what God thinks. You should also know that anti-depressants don't stop people from crying. SSRI's just even out your moods so if you're depressive, you're able to function like a normal person.

The death penalty is a completely different issue. I think there's a thread somewhere else. There's no reason for it, economically, aside from revenge and punishment. Statistically, it doesn't prevent crimes.

price of tea in China
"The price of tea in China" is an expression which is used to denote something which is unrelated to the current topic of discussion.

This expression has stemmed from economists, who describe everything economic as affecting everything else, trying to find an expression which denotes the furthest logical connection from their current economic focus. In this way, the price of tea in China was used to denote the furthest possibility. It can also be used to denote an irrelevant topic.

It has the most common form "what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?"

There may be a second explanation.

In the 19th century the price for tea in England was the highest when the first ship with the newly harvested tea came in. So for the ship owners it was important to be as fast as possible back to England with the load, otherwise the cost of the passage was not to be recovered from the sale of the tea. Thus there were real races (the tea clipper races) where the sail ships managed to travel the whole distance from China to England in about 80 to 90 days.

The difference in prices from the first load to the later ones was so high that it was quite unimportant which price for the tea was originally paid in China. So the "price of tea in China" was something that really didn't matter for the ship owners. They had to have the tea in England as fast as possible.

Alternative sayings for democracy lovers in modern times include "the price of tea in Taiwan" and "the price of tea in the PRC".
http://www.answers.com/topic/price-of-tea-in-china


On another note, if you google "China price tea", shouldn't one of the links actually give you how much tea costs in China?

P.S. Bah. Found it...
http://kmdali.en.alibaba.com/offerde.../Sell_Tea.html
Next time, just tell him "It's about 8-13 yuan RMB. Now answer my point!"

open mouth insert foot apparently a man wrote before he read. i was referring to the amount of time so many criminals remain on death row for. i know there is a death peanlty. duh. i said i was no expert on moral values. not god or anti- depressants. note the period. and by me saying god must be crying and taking them in no way did i say they cant be done at the same time same time. i expressed my opinion on abortions i thought that is what this forum was for.
i see that mans point how abortions could help reduce crime. my opinion on that and please excuse me for having one.... everyday i deal with women that are pregnant with childern they dont want that yes, are often fathered by criminals, most of these women are poor and so are the fathers. they cant afford to take care of these childern, they also cant afford an abortion. they get on welfare, move into public housing, and those unwanted childern are running around raising themselves in places that it is considered cool to own guns and sell drugs. these childern grow up. wellah... theres some of your criminals. if abortion were illegal except in extreme situations, men and women that so freely have unprotected sex and greatly add to the welfare, hiv and std epidemic would eventually learn their lesson after being forced to give birth to and pay for a child. these people would be more likley to use protection or /and birth controll, some will never learn. ive also noticed that not all of the childern of criminals grow up to be criminals. and not every criminal comes from a parent that is one. it would be like playing russian rolate, genetics are never certain.
god bless all of us