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Old 03-29-2006, 12:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ending a pregnancy, trying to control women’s lives, gov't interfering w/ doctor-patients.
The Birth Tax: each child enters the world under the weight of Republican debt burden.
Sometimes it is necessary or else their would be no child entering the world.

I would rather have the child enter the world under the weight of Republican debt which has been used in Americas defense, than under the weight of the debt created by Democrats which has been used to fund programs that are entirely bankrupt.
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Sometimes it is necessary or else their would be no child entering the world.

I would rather have the child enter the world under the weight of Republican debt which has been used in Americas defense, than under the weight of the debt created by Democrats which has been used to fund programs that are entirely bankrupt.

They are only bankrupt because republicans never support them to the necessary degree to make them successful. In fact they fight them at every possible opportunity. If you look at countries with large social programs we see that it does actually work. In fact there is often a government surplus, not debt, with very functioning social programs that benefit society.

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Sweden Budget:
revenues: $210.5 billion
expenditures: $205.9 billion, including capital expenditures of NA (2005 est.)

USA Budget:
revenues: $2.119 trillion
expenditures: $2.466 trillion, including capital expenditures of NA (2005 est.)


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Barbaric? Of course; it's disgusting, and a hard decision to make. But it should still be an option. If action needs to be taken, it shouldn't be manifested as a ban on abortion, but rather in the form of education. The decision should always be the mother's to make, not the state's.
I agree totally. Anti abortionists fail to take into account that no woman gets an abortion just for the heck of it. Its a terrible trauma for a woman to go through, but if a woman chooses to rape her own body in such a way, we must give her the benefit of the doubt that she does so for her own valid reasons.

A woman in such a difficult situation needs support, not condemnation.
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I agree totally. Anti abortionists fail to take into account that no woman gets an abortion just for the heck of it. Its a terrible trauma for a woman to go through, but if a woman chooses to rape her own body in such a way, we must give her the benefit of the doubt that she does so for her own valid reasons.

A woman in such a difficult situation needs support, not condemnation.
Of course we take into account that they don't get an abortion for fun, no one is that stupid. We see it as unjustified murder, nothing else.
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Of course we take into account that they don't get an abortion for fun, no one is that stupid. We see it as unjustified murder, nothing else.
Even if you see it as murder most Christians are still for the death penalty. Let the fate of mother lay in God's hands if that is how you feel about abortion. No one is forcing anyone to get one.
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Even if you see it as murder most Christians are still for the death penalty. Let the fate of mother lay in God's hands if that is how you feel about abortion. No one is forcing anyone to get one.
Nor should they force them not to get one.
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Of course we take into account that they don't get an abortion for fun, no one is that stupid. We see it as unjustified murder, nothing else.
Even so, the burden of this unjustified murder lies with the mother. Not with anybody else.

The problem arises when this woman in a horrible situation is exposed to all manners of abuse and condemnation. Because that is the basis for the anti-abortionist stance.That it is morally wrong and therefore condemnable.

The subjective nature of moral judgements neccesitate that the judgement is made by the the person affected by the situation, not by self-righteous outsiders.

Many women even REGRET having an abortion, but again that is their demon. Not anybody else's.

I personally don't think having an abortion is a positive thing in a woman's life. however i do belive that it can be a less negative thing than having a child in a bad situation. The point is that this is a case by case evaluation that can only be made by the mother. Not by anybody else.

And there is certainly no legislation that can be made, that is nuanced enough to deal with such personal issues.
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abortion is not murder, but bringing a child into a unwantig family were they constantly hurt him is child abuse.so try to fathum that you ignorant fools
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abortion is not murder, but bringing a child into a unwantig family were they constantly hurt him is child abuse.so try to fathum that you ignorant fools

I think you should try to read what we've posted, and you should also examine your spelling and grammar, since you seem to be entirely ignorant to the conventions of the English language.

Firstly, the first word of a sentence is always capitalized. Secondly, it is spelled "fathom." Thirdly, most of us have posted what you posted, but in a more intellegent manner. Who's the ignorant fool?

By the way, it is spelled "Conspirator."
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eh..don't worry about the grammar too much here..I myself am not the best person when it comes to grammar..
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