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Old 01-15-2008, 01:10 PM   #121 (permalink)
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The rights and responsibilities are very different. The father does not carry the same responsibility. He doesn't carry the child in his body, or give birth to it. It isn't an equal process.
True that we do not have equal bodies. No rights given can reverse the fact that the woman has the uterus. We cannot give rights to undo that. But both man and woman must carry responsibility for their actions.

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Old 01-15-2008, 01:17 PM   #122 (permalink)
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The rights and responsibilities are very different. The father does not carry the same responsibility. He doesn't carry the child in his body, or give birth to it. It isn't an equal process.
So are you finally telling us that men and women aren't equal after all??
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Step backwards, Catus. The only way to make it work is to overturn the legality of abortion as it is written now. Not add on to the present law that sprung up from Roe v. Wade. Scrap it and start over.

Kind of like how folk get a commitment on people in the courts after a doctor testifies and others. Every abortion should be a matter of a court approval. How's that for job security if you work in the legal profession?

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Sorry it took me so long to answer. I had to be downtown at 10am this morning.

It would be great job security. You do realize that we're going to need an entirely separate court to handle this. The system is backed up enough as it is. Now you're going to have to pass new taxes to pay for the 'abortion' courts. That's where you're going to run into a S*** load of problems. Everyone wants what they want, but very few are willing to pay for it.
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If we are going to maintain the legal status of abortion, then I believe we need to be willing to pay the cost.

And perhaps some cases would not even be able to come to a hearing. If we placed restrictions on it, not making it so easy as a mere back-up plan for contraception that was not sought in advance of the sex act.

Perhaps we could rule out abortion in so very many cases, that the courts would not be so busied as one supposes.

For example a financial disclosure by both parents be filed to prove hardship IF the baby is born.

Certain stated reasons, health, or if there is a history of mental health issues, or other factors...

Certainly age could be another factor. Marital status.

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If we are going to maintain the legal status of abortion, then I believe we need to be willing to pay the cost.

And perhaps some cases would not even be able to come to a hearing. If we placed restrictions on it, not making it so easy as a mere back-up plan for contraception that was not sought in advance of the sex act.

Perhaps we could rule out abortion in so very many cases, that the courts would not be so busied as one supposes.

For example a financial disclosure by both parents be filed to prove hardship IF the baby is born.

Certain stated reasons, health, or if there is a history of mental health issues, or other factors...

Certainly age could be another factor. Marital status.

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Instead of creating yet another burdensome legal process it would be much easier if women learned to stop seducing men and started to control their basest animal instincts.
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Instead of creating yet another burdensome legal process it would be much easier if women learned to stop seducing men and started to control their basest animal instincts.
Yeah...Obviously when men get horny enough, they'll just start meeting each other in public restrooms at rest areas and airports.

And I hear the lesbian couple pregnancy rate is unbelievably low.
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If we are going to maintain the legal status of abortion, then I believe we need to be willing to pay the cost.

And perhaps some cases would not even be able to come to a hearing. If we placed restrictions on it, not making it so easy as a mere back-up plan for contraception that was not sought in advance of the sex act.

Perhaps we could rule out abortion in so very many cases, that the courts would not be so busied as one supposes.

For example a financial disclosure by both parents be filed to prove hardship IF the baby is born.

Certain stated reasons, health, or if there is a history of mental health issues, or other factors...

Certainly age could be another factor. Marital status.

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Now you're moving the goalposts. We were discussing a law giving the father of the embryo 'veto' power regarding an abortion. I've seen many people suggest this law, but not ONE of them has any idea how to do it.

My appointment this morning was with the prosecuting attorney to deal with a problem regarding a former tenant. My second step in handling this problem is to have my attorney send her a letter. If it weren't for the fact that I get most legal work done free, it would cost me between 1 and 2 hundred dollars to get that letter sent.

All the disclosures you talk about filing, cost money. The more steps, the more money. The higher up it goes, the more it costs. The taxpayers are going to have to pay the tab for the court staff, the judges and the building.

You should see the bankruptcy court building in Little Rock. There's the mahogany court room, the Italian marble court room, and the third court room has a fresco style ceiling trimmed with 24 carat gold paint. The building itself is a complete and total waste of taxpayer money. Toss in the judges salaries of between 150 and 200 thousand a year, the staff salary and just the cost of doing business, and you're talking about a LOT of taxpayer money.

When the costs are added up, I doubt the average citizen is going to be willing to fork over that kind of tax increase in order to assist Bubba to force Lurline into popping out his kid.
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Didn't you mean to click on the humor forum for that post?
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