I didn't hear any argument from you Gary. I don't have to defend my position, you do. You are the one who is equating being gay with being a predator. And FX, you are also the one who brought up the stuff about adults having sex with children, not me, it's not my silver bullet. You may all attack me now, in any case, I know it is because your arguments have failed. You are both trying to push your Morality on others who might not agree. Keep it to yourselves, gay people aren't hurting anyone.

And FX, who the hell cares if two people smear poop on each other? Why do you have to legislate your beliefs? As long as they don't pin you down and smear poop on you, what's the problem?

No one had equated being gay with being a predator. It's obviously your lack of an argument that keeps you coming back to that BS. I only think that they DO share several components that render them abnormal conditions for a human. And not abnormal because they are rare, but abnormal because there is no reason/benefit/purpose/cause for their actions/urges/instincts. THAT argument has not failed. I am not attacking anyone nor have I ever. I have no reason to attack "you" because I don't know "you". But I DO know that heterosexuality is the only "sexual orientation" that "works" on this planet for complex life forms and all others are null and void. And just because a few humans have "other" as a inflicted urge, it doesn't make it OK that their urge has them screwing each other in what will never amount to much more than pointless anatomically contrived sexual gratification. And honestly while that is fine "in their bedrooms", just as if my neighbor and his well cared for collie get in on in theirs, I just don't want to know about it. And considering the general opinion of people that even agree with "gay rights", of which I am one for everything except "marriage", many(if not most) of those same people also share MY point of view on that.

And I don't care if people smear poo on themselves "in their bedrooms". But if they have a "Poop Smearing Pride Day", with people going down the street with human poop on themselves, THAT my dear would hardly fly.

But I'm sure it would draw plenty.

I think some could argue that the reason and benefit and purpose is to have an orgasm or possibley share intimacy with another human. Sex is not only for procreation, unless you are a devout Catholic. Anatomically contrived sexual gratification? Do you plan on a child every time you and your wife do the deed? Or just mess around? What difference does that make? There is no purpose in oral sex either then, even for hetero's.

I'm waiting to for the part that normalizes homosexuality as a evolved part of humanity that also removes the other 2 deviant urges that you DON'T like.

Humans have many tools for inducing orgasms. All the way to fingers and hands. And intimacy is nice, but not required especially in men.

I never said procreation was required for sex. Again, you can have sex with your hand, a latex tool, a hole in a bathroom wall, so you can get your roks off in any number of ways. But that doesn't mean that you have to "fall in love" with a wall, formed latex, or your hand.

Oral sex is just another way of getting off. It's just stimulation. Zoophillic women have pets that do the same thing "down there". So that's not gonna do it either.

I'm sorry, we have artificial means to do every act that deals with the sexual act. But there's only one way that "makes sense" from every direction and excludes all others. You can come up with all kindsa rationalistic BS to try and justify homosexuality, but unless you come up with consent and legal, they are all related. Hetero on the other hand comes full circle with humanity/mammals/cycle of life. Just like nearly every other natural system on the planet.

What about humans who are by nature incapable of reproduction? There are all kinds of things in nature that do not conform to the norm, whether by choice or by nature. It is incredibly arrogant to assume that one kind of nature is superior over another. One nature produces a certain result, and another nature doesn't. Why is one superior to another?

See, I don't care when it started.
It was a rhetorical question.

My point is that it seems too many threads here end up becoming shouting matches about subjects other than what the thread was originally about. (In your case, that subject is the feeble, tired, and defeated argument that gay people are like pedophiles.)

I will stop short of telling the mods how to do their jobs, but I would consider closing a thread when that happens, in an effort to keep threads on point.

And remember how on the wild and woolly Yahoo boards the trolls were always saying things like what you pointed out in your second paragraph? I suppose the trolls said that because they were prejudiced against gays and lesbians.

Either prejudiced against us, or actively seeking to annoy us for their perverse entertainment. As you may know, one self-confessed troll here actually admitted to doing that over on the yahoo boards. (I will decline to identify him by name, but if history is any guide, he will respond and identify himself soon enough.)

"In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others."

Yep that sounds like our Cyn!

Humans that can't reproduce are disordered. Sterile. Defective.

I can't pee. I am disordered. Defective. Broken.

It's not a "kind of nature". There is only one. If a person is born with 3 legs, they are disordered. Just as blind person.

You aren't coming up with any new arguments. They are all interrelated and homosexuality fails most of them.

Homosexuals trying to marry is like a man trying to have a baby. It's NOT supposed to happen ever naturally. But computer technology has brought it to at least virtual reality.
POP! The First Human Male Pregnancy - Mr. Lee Mingwei