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Old 02-07-2008, 09:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Why is it so hard to understand that unsafe (illegal) abortion kills many women, whereas safe (legal) abortion has few complications? Do you think the lives of women are unimportant?

"An estimated 20m unsafe abortions are carried out each year, 97% of them in developing countries. According to the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF), complications from unsafe abortions account for 70,000 deaths annually, as well as countless injuries. "It's such a waste of life,""

Why should one have compation for a women who would even consider killing her child in such a inhuman way, that it actualy takes her own life, but no compation for the little one they were trying to murder?? You reap what you sow. Waste of life????? Who are we trying to kid here??
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Murder is much more than a legal term. How sad.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Confused as I am about nearly everything anymore anyhow, this might not matter to anyone, but you know, everyone is going to continue to have those deep down in the heart kinda feelings about abortion at all.

And if you want to extol a woman for using a ship in International Waters to perform abortions for those women in nations that do not legally allow it, then I think by the same token, y'all ought to have not put Grace in derision for her charitable giving to sponsor children in other nations too.

What GRACE is doing by that is bringing health and life to those children and she ought to be respected for that. Even if you are pro-choice, it ought to be evident that no one "wants" abortion. It only happens when no one "wants" the baby. So once there is a baby, EVERYONE wants that child to be cared for.

Hats off to Grace! God bless her. And even if any here disagree with her, as many do, you gotta give her that she has heart.

And God bless us everyone,

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You know, OD, no one 'derided' Grace for sponsoring a child overseas.

Hell, just about everyone in my family sponsors a child overseas. How hard is it to write a check for $25 dollars once a month?

On the other hand, she is doing exactly nothing about the children that are born RIGHT HERE IN THE USA that are born and unwanted.

She is anti-abortion, so if she feels that strongly about it, she should do something about the unwanted children right here in her backyard.
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You know, OD, no one 'derided' Grace for sponsoring a child overseas.
First you say this
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Hell, just about everyone in my family sponsors a child overseas. How hard is it to write a check for $25 dollars once a month?
Then prove to everyone what you just said is a LIE.
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On the other hand, she is doing exactly nothing about the children that are born RIGHT HERE IN THE USA that are born and unwanted.
Here we go again with wild assumptions. Do you know me??? No you dont.
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She is anti-abortion, so if she feels that strongly about it, she should do something about the unwanted children right here in her backyard.
You dont know the first thing about what I do, so stop pretending you do.
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Confused as I am about nearly everything anymore anyhow, this might not matter to anyone, but you know, everyone is going to continue to have those deep down in the heart kinda feelings about abortion at all.

And if you want to extol a woman for using a ship in International Waters to perform abortions for those women in nations that do not legally allow it, then I think by the same token, y'all ought to have not put Grace in derision for her charitable giving to sponsor children in other nations too.

What GRACE is doing by that is bringing health and life to those children and she ought to be respected for that. Even if you are pro-choice, it ought to be evident that no one "wants" abortion. It only happens when no one "wants" the baby. So once there is a baby, EVERYONE wants that child to be cared for.

Hats off to Grace! God bless her. And even if any here disagree with her, as many do, you gotta give her that she has heart.

And God bless us everyone,

OhDear

You are of course right about this. But who derided Grace for her charitable giving?

And those on the anti-choice side need to give credit to those on the choice side that are doing the same sort of thing. We are not monsters who want to murder babies.

Most -- dare I say all -- pro-choice people would rather see a world where every pregnancy was a planned one and every child born is welcomed, cherished and well cared for.
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Why should one have compation for a women who would even consider killing her child in such a inhuman way, that it actualy takes her own life, but no compation for the little one they were trying to murder?? You reap what you sow. Waste of life????? Who are we trying to kid here??
Grace, nobody's killing children. In the first 20 weeks of gestation (when 98.8% of women have their abortions), it's a fetus. And it's rights do not trump those of a living, breathing woman who doesn't want to be pregnant. A woman owns her body and should have 100% say over any and all medical decisions regarding her body.

Nobody's "murdering" anything. However, I understand that according to your belief system, you see abortion as akin to "murder." Your beliefs are your own. However, you (nor anyone else) has the right to dictate what's right for another. Abortion is an individual choice.

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It is? Please explain.

Murder was a word used long before Legal was a word. Long before there was even such a thing as a court room. Its a word meant to explain the untimely death of a human, intentionaly by another human.
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Grace, nobody's killing children. In the first 20 weeks of gestation (when 98.8% of women have their abortions), it's a fetus. And it's rights do not trump those of a living, breathing woman who doesn't want to be pregnant. A woman owns her body and should have 100% say over any and all medical decisions regarding her body.

Nobody's "murdering" anything. However, I understand that according to your belief system, you see abortion as akin to "murder." Your beliefs are your own. However, you (nor anyone else) has the right to dictate what's right for another. Abortion is an individual choice.


So it isnt true that there are millions of people who are not here, that otherwise would have been if not for abortion?? Are you thankfull your mother didnt abort you?
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You are of course right about this. But who derided Grace for her charitable giving?

And those on the anti-choice side need to give credit to those on the choice side that are doing the same sort of thing. We are not monsters who want to murder babies.

Most -- dare I say all -- pro-choice people would rather see a world where every pregnancy was a planned one and every child born is welcomed, cherished and well cared for.
That was very well said.

I'm new so I don't know about Grace's charitable donations, but if she's giving to children anywhere I commend her.

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