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Old 03-28-2008, 01:38 PM   #121 (permalink)
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There are plenty of loving and supportive parents whose child wont tell them, simply for the sake of not having to deal with what ever the parents may say. To say the Schools or PP have more of a right to know your child's medical situation than you do, is completely insane. To have the school, or PP being the only influence in there decision is insane. Do you even hear yourself?
A child may not tell the parents for fear of being punished, unless the parents are very supportive and gets their child the help she needs. I guess the young teen never knows how her parents would react to such situations, either being yelled at and the father wanting to find out who messed with his daughter.

What laws are there requiring teachers, principals, school nurses, not to keep mum on this? Should a child be made to get counseling for this?
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A child may not tell the parents for fear of being punished, unless the parents are very supportive and gets their child the help she needs. I guess the young teen never knows how her parents would react to such situations, either being yelled at and the father wanting to find out who messed with his daughter.

What laws are there requiring teachers, principals, school nurses, not to keep mum on this? Should a child be made to get counseling for this?

I dont know if they have to tell the parents that the child is pregnant, but I know they cant do anything on a medical level without there consent. You canT give a child a asprin in school without parental consent.
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I don't know if they have to tell the parents that the child is pregnant, but I know they cant do anything on a medical level without there consent. You can't give a child a aspirin in school without parental consent.
Unless the child moves out of the house or hides the pregnancy real well, the parents may never know.
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Unless the child moves out of the house or hides the pregnancy real well, the parents may never know.

Exactly. The very notion is absurd
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Puberty and pregnancy are two very different concepts. And in nature, pregnancy and motherhood, represent adulthood.
Quote from you on another thread......

"Get over all this nature stuff and how things are meant to work, it isn't important."


http://www.defendingthetruth.com/gay...riage-123.html (Homosexuals continue their attack on traditional marriage)


Old 03-31-2008, 09:55 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Quote from you on another thread......

"Get over all this nature stuff and how things are meant to work, it isn't important."

http://www.defendingthetruth.com/gay...riage-123.html (Homosexuals continue their attack on traditional marriage)
What does aborton have to do with Same Sex Marriage? Gary are you sure you aren't from the Confederate States of America?
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for most medical situations, doctors have the right to act on behalf of a minor without parental consent if it is an emergency.

and the right to act without parental consent if the parents are considered likely to cause harm if they learn of the situation.

and if the parents are actually known to be contributing to the problem.

and if the parents cannot be located.

in short, blanket statements like "the parents have a right to know", or the parents must always be part of the decision" are simply wrong.

you will probably say something like "these are highly specific situations and they do not apply to the issue at hand", or "pregnancy is not an emergency"

i cannot speak for the laws in america or england, but in australia, the laws are interpreted very loosely. pregnancy IS considered an emergency, and one that allows doctors to act without requiring parental consent. so is contraception, in fact. and if the adolescent feels that telling the parents might lead to some kind of punishment or retribution, then the doctors have no requirement to let the parents know.

i suspect (without basis, but i will listen to anyone who actually works in the field) that the laws elsewhere are also interpreted loosely, allowing each situation to be handled individually.
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Right^^^
And Grace, they are not counseling girls in schools about abortions. I am referring only to the doctor.

And Gary, you cannot use one part of a post concerning intimacy between two consenting adults in reference to when a girl becomes a woman. Technically she is physically a woman when she begins menstruating. That doesn't mean that she is emotionally an adult, but then again, I know many people who are legally adults, yet they are clearly not emotionally adults. When a young woman is pregnant, and if she intends to keep the child, she is going to be a mother, and that constitutes adulthood.
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Right^^^
And Grace, they are not counseling girls in schools about abortions. I am referring only to the doctor.

And Gary, you cannot use one part of a post concerning intimacy between two consenting adults in reference to when a girl becomes a woman. Technically she is physically a woman when she begins menstruating. That doesn't mean that she is emotionally an adult, but then again, I know many people who are legally adults, yet they are clearly not emotionally adults. When a young woman is pregnant, and if she intends to keep the child, she is going to be a mother, and that constitutes adulthood.

Your definitions of "adult", "emotionally adult" and "adulthood" are frankly irrelevant.

Legally a child remains a minor until their 18th birthday. Most are dependent on their parents for a long time after that.

It's unthinkable that any adult should keep secrets about a minor from their parents.

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Your definitions of "adult", "emotionally adult" and "adulthood" are frankly irrelevant.

Legally a child remains a minor until their 18th birthday. Most are dependent on their parents for a long time after that.

It's unthinkable that any adult should keep secrets about a minor from their parents.

Well gary, not to sound insulting, but.......


If you were my father there would be alot that would be kept from you....... Your drama and constant whining/bleating and the superiority complex you have would make having any attempt at a civil conversation with you impossible.

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