[quote=fxashun;168367]C-section is not a casual decision, it is riskier than vaginal delivery. It is also riskier for subsequent deliveries. Teens will have have the same conditions of diet and prenatal care, so you CANNOT adust for that. Teens are not physically mature enough to endure pregnancy/childbirth without greater risks.

Cesarean Birth for Medical Reasons - March of Dimes
Risks for the Mother



A few women have one or more of these complications after a c-section:

• Increased bleeding, which may require a blood transfusion
• Infection in the incision, in the uterus, or in other nearby organs
• Reactions to medications, including the drugs used for anesthesia
• Injuries to the bladder or bowel
• Blood clots in the legs, pelvic organs or lungs

A very small number of women who have c-sections die. Death is rare, but it is more likely with cesarean than with vaginal delivery.



If a woman who has had a cesarean section becomes pregnant again, she is at increased risk of:

• Placenta previa: The placenta implants very low in the uterus. It covers all or part of the internal opening of the cervix (the birth canal).
• Placenta accreta: The placenta implants too deeply and too firmly into the uterine wall.

Both of these conditions can lead to severe bleeding during labor and delivery, endangering mother and baby."




Any suggestion that using children to satisfy your sick sexual desires is OK is overwhelmingly SICK!
HARMING THE LITTLE ONES: THE EFFECTS OF PEDOPHILIA ON CHILDREN - HiddenMysteries Health Archive

"In truth, those who would dismiss the negative effects of child sexual abuse do so against a veritable mountain of evidence documenting the pernicious consequences of adult-child sex. Lucy Berliner and Diana M. Elliott, in The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment, summarize, “Research conducted over the past decade indicates that a wide range of psychological and interpersonal problems are more prevalent among those who have been sexually abused than among individuals with no such experiences.”<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#19">19</B> In their review of 45 studies, Kathleen A. Kendall-Tackett, Linda Myer Williams, and David Finkelhor concur, “Fears, posttraumatic stress disorder, behavior problems, sexualized behaviors, and poor self-esteem occurred most frequently among a long list of symptoms noted. …”<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#20">20</B> David Lisak adds to this long list of pernicious effects suffered by the survivors of child sexual abuse, which he describes as “a legacy of childhood abuse that permeates all of the important domains of its victims’ lives”:

The analysis identified prominent affects and affective states (anger, fear, helplessness, loss, guilt, and shame), salient cognitive sequelae (inability to legitimize their experience as abuse, negative schemas about the self and about people and self-blame), pervasive issues around gender and sexuality (homosexual issues, masculinity issues and problems with sexuality), and interpersonal difficulties (betrayal, isolation and alienation, and negative childhood peer relations).<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#21">21</B>

Researchers attribute the harm inflicted on the child to a number of factors: The abuse is often confusing, frightening — and painful. Sexual activity between children and adults, by its very nature nonconsensual, interferes with normal development processes and leads to maladjustment later in life.<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#22">22</B> These negative effects can be categorized according to age group.
Effects of Child Sexual Abuse on Children. Contrary to the opinions of those who would minimize the negative consequences of adult-child sex, the effects are immediate and often severe. In a clinical study, Robert L. Johnson, M.D., found that “70% of those who had been molested (by a male or female) felt devastated immediately after the molestation incident had occurred.”<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#23">23</B> Bill Watkins and Arnon Bentovim, in their review of research on the sexual abuse of male children, found three common short-term effects.<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#24">24</B>
One effect is the development of homosexual tendencies. Watkins and Bentovim found that adolescents attributed the onset of their homosexual desires to having been victimized by an older male. Secondly, male victims of sexual abuse often turn their rage outward and attempt to reassert their masculinity in inappropriate ways, such as aggressive and antisocial behavior. Finally, some boy victims try to recapitulate — or re-enact — their victimization, this time with themselves as the perpetrator and someone else as the victim.
Another common reaction is for the victim to withdraw into himself or herself, dejected and plagued with self-doubt. This only aggravates the pain, for it is thought that children who do not speak about their sexual abuse suffer greater psychic distress than those who are able to seek help.<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#25">25</B> Johnson notes:

Low self-esteem and depression are the most important long-term effects experienced by sexually abused boys, along with a tendency to feel helpless and vulnerable. Some of these boys are almost compulsively drawn into situations where they are repeatedly victimized. Adult types of sexual dysfunction appear to be as common among former sexual abuse victims as they are in adult rape victims.<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#26">26</B>

These may include running away from home, being enticed into prostitution, promiscuous sex, and substance abuse.<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#27">27</B>
Finally, and not surprisingly, many of these children become suicidal. They are more likely than other maltreated children to receive the psychiatric diagnosis of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder.<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#28">28</B> Because of the nature of the abuse, they have difficulty forming trusting relationships — especially with those they view as parental figures. Effects Continuing into Adulthood. In their study of the long-term impact of the abuse of children, P.E. Mullen, et al., note, “Child abuse, and sexual abuse in particular, has come to be regarded by many clinicians as making a powerful contribution to adult pathology.”<A href="http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/effects/pedophilia.html#29">29</B> "


Where did you get the idea that pedophilia marriages were common in our history?
Marriage - MSN Encarta
"In 1995 the median age of women in the United States at the time of their first marriage was 25. The median age of men was about 27. Men and women in the United States marry for the first time an average of five years later than people did in the 1950s. However, young adults of the 1950s married younger than did any previous generation in U.S. history. Today’s later age of marriage is in line with the age of marriage between 1890 and 1940. "

18th Century Wedding - An 18th Century Event at Claude Moore Colonial Farm
"The average age to be married (in 18th century lower-class Virginia) was 23 for women, 26 for men."

It's all about risk though. There's a risk to anything. Nothing has 0% risk.

True Pedophilia has nothing to do with abortion and pregnancy since "pedophilia" describes people attracted to pre-pubescent children.

Ephebophilia describes men who are attracted to girl past puberty and before legal. And that's a huge window. It also describes lots of children who are having sex with each other. Not illegal for two 14 year olds to have sex with each other, and she might get pregnant. Why is that pregnancy different than any other?
C-Section might be risky, but if it's necessary, it just is. It's a little late to be worried about that.

We can worse case scenario all day long though. Mental stability isn't guaranteed in life. You father yelling at you can mess you up psychologically. Ripping 400 children from their homes as a reaction to one report of "abuse" that may or may not be substantiated is gonna cause some trauma.

But then again...
One effect is the development of homosexual tendencies. Watkins and Bentovim found that adolescents attributed the onset of their homosexual desires to having been victimized by an older male.
Maybe pedo is worse than I thought.

Seriously though, that one line makes me question that whole c@p. Additionally, we are talking about abortion and pregnancy, that's after true pedo and is just illegal. And the illegality is and always has been variable. 13 year olds are getting pregnant. Got any studies that show that they were damaged by the sex that got them that way in any significant higher percentage than any other pregnant female?

Ya think? No seriously, do you think outside of your own narrow perspective and view things from all angles? How could you not think that pedophelia is extremely harmful to the child involved?

What I think isn't always the case. I swear I keep hearing that somewhere.

But I do think it is. But there is also evidence in history that some sex with children is just icky, but not necessarily dangerous. Many instances of child adult sexual relationships. Incest too.

I thought I was clear that I find pedophilia absolutely disgusting/abhorrent/detestible. But that doesn't mean you can't debate both sides of a topic of discussion. And there are compelling instances of pedo-ish behavior not being the 100% destructive thing that the media, common sense, and parental instincts has us thinking it is.

Maybe you are one thinking narrowly.

If any adult male were to come near my 14 year old daughter, he would be walking away without his "meat and two veg." And I know that she is in no way mature enough to take part in an adult sexual relationship. When she is 17, and an older boy wants to date her, that would depend on how much older he was. And when she is 18, she is free to decide what she will do in her life, but I certainly hope it would be to be with someone that she loves and who respects her and loves her equally in turn. Not some greasy old pervert who sees her as an object to control or to fulfill his sexual peccadilloes.

What if your 14 year old went near a adult male willingly? I've known 14 year olds that shocked me when I was 25. I'll finish this later. Dialysis is over.

The adult male must utilise his adult powers of reasoning and restraint, just like any man who is attracted to a woman can't just rape her because his urges were too hard to control. And if he does, he goes to jail.

you will know whether you think pedophilia is all nice and sweet when some 40 year old man goes after your 13 year old daughter and she goes willingly.

What if your 13 year old had d cup breasts? That's not a pedophile, that's just a horney immoral dude. The same horny dude that a 13 year old would be who could legally go after my 13 year old daughter. Is she any less screwed, pregnant, or infected?
There are some 13 year olds that would shock you.
My wife was a 15 year old virgin when she went trawling for a 25 year old black guy and found one. Days after her 16th birthday, she was driving down to meet him. 12 or so years ago.

are you saying you are incapable of controlling yourself? it's both immoral and illegal. and one day maybe some old lech will go after your daughter. or son. and if you were 25 her father should have made sure you could never father children.