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Old 04-18-2008, 12:49 PM   #241 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter if a young girl is coming on to a man. As the adult it is his legal responsibility to not allow his urges to get the better of him. And if he can't and he gets caught, he goes to jail. That is as it should be. You can spout your nature crap to me all you like because it only shows that you believe if a man wants it and seeks it out, it is simply nature. Puh-lease! And if he can't control his urges, it's the slutty little girls fault. That is so bent.
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:56 PM   #242 (permalink)
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And how do you know you have a letch husband? You already made kids with him, you didn't know before then? Your comment makes no sense. Why would you make kids with a guy you suspected of that?

I think zoophilia is wrong too. But that's also just an opinion. No real evidence having sex with a sheep is "baaaad".

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that is my point. I wouldn't even want to BE with a man that went after a young girl. because he cant be trusted later. it would worry me that our daughter would appeal to him.
Old 04-18-2008, 01:45 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Once again a highly illogical post from Gary. No one said anything about what should be done when parents or society fails children and they are damaged. Those idiotic comments are just your way of inflaming the argument. And the same goes for the part about pedophilia being okay if it were proven to not harm kids. Utterly ridiculous.

You'll have to take that up with your pro-abortion sister, okgrannie.

She's the one who suggested that the only reason pedophilia is illegal is because it results in damaged adults who may disrupt society in later life, as can the unwanted children.

So if it's ok to kill unborn children to avoid bringing unwanted children into the world then it follows that euthanising them before they become adults will avoid any unpleasant disorder.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:18 PM   #244 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter if a young girl is coming on to a man. As the adult it is his legal responsibility to not allow his urges to get the better of him. And if he can't and he gets caught, he goes to jail. That is as it should be. You can spout your nature crap to me all you like because it only shows that you believe if a man wants it and seeks it out, it is simply nature. Puh-lease! And if he can't control his urges, it's the slutty little girls fault. That is so bent.
But we are arresting 17 year olds for having sex with school mates. Your approach sounds great but in real life, there are those that would take issue.
It's funny how you have the "if abortion was illegal women would seek it out" matra. Well popping little 14 year olds is illegal too, but they are still getting abortions, pregnant, and having sex. See how that works both ways?

And there will be an end to the supply of horny teen agers and dirty old men to take advantage of them. Cause until you can put GPS on a childs' ass, there's very little that can be done to watch a human being 24 hours a day. Our 2 parent working and latchkey society has made it convenient for little girls to be horny little Myspace sluts all they want.

One of my nurses has a 14 year old son with a Myspace page he supposedly deleted. So she asked me to hack it. Not only are there innapropriate for 14 year old messages on that account, there are 17 and 18 year old girls on there hitting on him too. It's crazy.

I again would like to reiterate, any talk of pregnancy and abortion eliminates "pedophiles" since a "pedophile"'s like em before they can get pregnant. We are talking about ephebophiles. Which probably describes a large swath of the male population.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:36 PM   #245 (permalink)
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that is my point. I wouldn't even want to BE with a man that went after a young girl. because he cant be trusted later. it would worry me that our daughter would appeal to him.
And men always walk around hitting on young girls.[/sarcasm]
There would be a "L" on his forehead for letch, or maybe a "p" for pervert for sure. Not!!!

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Old 04-19-2008, 12:43 AM   #246 (permalink)
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So if it's ok to kill unborn children to avoid bringing unwanted children into the world then it follows that euthanising them before they become adults will avoid any unpleasant disorder.
They are hardly unborn children, rather blobs of cells all jumbled together with some beady eyes and a weirdly proportioned head.
Old 04-19-2008, 12:46 AM   #247 (permalink)
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I think it's wrong for a guy to go after my daughter, but if he isn't the instigator, what beef do I have with the guy for just being a guy? It's my daughter I should have the problem with.
If this bloke was older than your daughter, you should have the beef with him. He should be responsible and refuse her advances. He is the elder person here, therefore he bears responsibility, whether or not the girl flirts with him, no matter if she shakes her booty in his face. He has to keep control of himself.
Old 04-19-2008, 08:14 AM   #248 (permalink)
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They are hardly unborn children, rather blobs of cells all jumbled together with some beady eyes and a weirdly proportioned head.
If that makes you feel better. But most of us know that "blob of cells all jumbled together with some beady eyes and a weirdly proportioned head" might someday be a daughter, who a guy might consider to be little more than a walking vagina and breasts. I mean, if we are gonna reduce the significance of things to justify our actions, why does it have to stop at embryos? Cause when it all boils down to it, that's really what you pay for with a hooker. And after a guy has gotten his use out of her, what connection does he really have? Just as you don't place much value on that "embryo", the only value placed on your daughter is what she demands from those around her.

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If this bloke was older than your daughter, you should have the beef with him. He should be responsible and refuse her advances. He is the elder person here, therefore he bears responsibility, whether or not the girl flirts with him, no matter if she shakes her booty in his face. He has to keep control of himself.
No he doesn't really. That's only a legal requirement. But in reality, if my daughter is mature enough to flirt and initiate the sexual contact, why should the age of the guy matter. Sex is sex, she's just as screwed by a person her age as she is by an older guy. Unless the guy crawled into her window and forcibly raped her, I can't get any more angry at the guy in that situation than I could if I find my wife at another guy's house. I hope I could instill self respect and virtue in my daughter.

Most importantly though, I'm glad I don't have a daughter.

As I said before, humans are the same now as they always have been, the "legal" age may be changing, but men have been chasing young girls forever, and in some countries you can "buy" one if you can afford it. You can only do your best to make sure it's not "your" child that is initiating sex at those ages. Because even if it's illegal, no one is getting arrested until after the fact, and by then, your daughter is literally already screwed.

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Old 04-19-2008, 08:24 AM   #249 (permalink)
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You'll have to take that up with your pro-abortion sister, okgrannie.

She's the one who suggested that the only reason pedophilia is illegal is because it results in damaged adults who may disrupt society in later life, as can the unwanted children.
Pro-CHOICE, gary, pro-CHOICE. I never said that unwanted children will disrupt society (although, it's true abortion has lowered the crime rate), I said abortion DOESN'T disrupt society. Please tell us how abortion causes disorder in society?




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So if it's ok to kill unborn children to avoid bringing unwanted children into the world then it follows that euthanising them before they become adults will avoid any unpleasant disorder.
Killing people CAUSES disorder, gary, it's a simple concept. Causing damage to people who are members of society causes disorder to society. How does abortion lead to disorder in society?
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Old 04-19-2008, 02:03 PM   #250 (permalink)
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Pro-CHOICE, gary, pro-CHOICE.

Ah now you want to use your politically correct euphemism to try and lessen the impact of killing unborn children for convenience.

In #208 you said "
Abortion is good for society" that sounds like a pro-abortion stance to me, or are you backing off that statement?


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I never said that unwanted children will disrupt society (although, it's true abortion has lowered the crime rate),

Which crime rate??

More Americans are behind bars than ever before!




I said abortion DOESN'T disrupt society. Please tell us how abortion causes disorder in society?

No wonder you got upset when I extrapolated your "argument" to point out that euthanasia could lead us to a society without any disorder whatsoever!
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