Defending the Truth

bfrazz1 · 04-15-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

Who says they were mistakes. Half of abortions are not the first. Doesn't sound like most of them are "mistakes", just stupid women. Who might be really making the right decision whe viewed from that angle.

Are you saying you never made a mistake more than once?

I question the "mistake" part of it. I'm sure the sex was intentional in most cases of abortion. If she catches herpes or HIV, the consequences are even more permanent.

And if she catches an STD, she's forced to deal with it - as unfortunate as that may be. But who are you to judge?

It's a child. All children go through the embryonic stage of development. It just another stage life adolescence, adulthood, and menopause.

In the zygote stage of development, it hard to discern a human from a reptile. In the embryonic phase, it's months before a nervous system develops. You cannot compare these prenatal states with post natal ones. It is absurd.

She had a say before she got pregnant.

Yes she did, and unfortunately she got pregnant and fortunately she had the right to terminate that pregnancy.

If the pregnancy is due to sex between people who are not married, and have no real relationship, sounds like slutty activity to me. God bless dem hoes, teenage guys depend on them, but they are still sluts.

From one hoe speaking for the rest of us "hoes" you sound like a very repressed "little" man.

Sharon den Adel · 04-16-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

Just as a woman working on her second and third abortion has a hard time justifying it as a mistake.

I know someone who has had three abortions, and every time she fell pregnant was using contraception, every form she could to make sure she protected herself, yet she still fell pregnant, three times - is this not a mistake, or is she to blame for her contraception failing her?

fxashun · 04-16-2008, 07:20 AM

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I think WT has cut it pretty close to the bone. Your mindset is more than obvious. You think that a woman who has sexual relations with more than one man is a "slut."

In close succession with no commitment yes. A woman having several relationships throughout her life is to be expected.

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I don't know what age you grew up in, but in my age group many women had multiple partners in their lives and they were respected by men and women as women of strength and independence. By the way, many more men had multiple partners and too many had multiple partners at the same time -lying to them all to keep things going. What are these men termed, besides "studs?"

It's a double standard. But I wouldn't want to put my mouth on a woman who pretty much considers herself a sperm dump. The mechanics of sex pretty much diktates many difference circumstances relative to gender.

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You seem to have a mommy complex, where you seek a world full of women who are virgins (like your mother must have been) just waiting for that one man to come along to fulfill all their dreams. Not a very realistic scenario in today's world.

My mother was 26 and unmarried when I was born. Far from a virgin. My father has been married 4 times with 2 kids by women who he never married. I have a complex, but it ain't "mommy".

As a man, I appreciate a good ho for her services provided when I was growing up.

But the woman I married WAS a virgin when we met. And I respect the hell out of her for it. Not all women are sluts. Just as not all have abortions. Just mostly unmarried sluts who are priming the system for another go at it.

knot_e_lady · 04-16-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharon den Adel

I know someone who has had three abortions, and every time she fell pregnant was using contraception, every form she could to make sure she protected herself, yet she still fell pregnant, three times - is this not a mistake, or is she to blame for her contraception failing her?

FX and gary will simply say she shouldn't have been having sex.

knot_e_lady · 04-16-2008, 07:29 AM

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But the woman I married WAS a virgin when we met.

Not hard, when she was a teenager.

fxashun · 04-16-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bfrazz1

Are you saying you never made a mistake more than once?

No I'm saying that creating a baby isn't a mistake, and having two abortions is approaching serial killing. I've typed the wto weo wrong letter a few times and forgotten to backspace, but we are talking about abortion, not just a "mistake".

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And if she catches an STD, she's forced to deal with it - as unfortunate as that may be. But who are you to judge?

A person with an opinion on a debate site. That IS what we are here for right? To express our opinion on topics.

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In the zygote stage of development, it hard to discern a human from a reptile. In the embryonic phase, it's months before a nervous system develops. You cannot compare these prenatal states with post natal ones. It is absurd.

Who do you think the hypothetical woman here was screwing??? A Klingon? What is absurd is acting like the ZEF developing in a human woman who had sex with another human is anything other than a developing human. I don't care what it looks like at that stage. I've seen some babies that I thanked God weren't mine.

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Yes she did, and unfortunately she got pregnant and fortunately she had the right to terminate that pregnancy.

I don't find that to be fortunate.

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From one hoe speaking for the rest of us "hoes" you sound like a very repressed "little" man.

I am according to some around here. But to those that actually matter, I'm quite large in many ways.

fxashun · 04-16-2008, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by knot_e_lady

Not hard, when she was a teenager.

Very true. But weren't we discussing 13 year olds having babies? Not guaranteed. They make sluts real young these days.

fxashun · 04-16-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharon den Adel

I know someone who has had three abortions, and every time she fell pregnant was using contraception, every form she could to make sure she protected herself, yet she still fell pregnant, three times - is this not a mistake, or is she to blame for her contraception failing her?

Maybe she is to blame for her contraception failing her. "I know a woman" is quite vague. There are "why"'s to consider.

Lesbians don't catch AIDS.....cept that one couple. There are exceptions to every rule. And usually there's a pretty interesting "why". Like plane crashes and nuclear plant failures.