OKgrannie

Is it constitutional?

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2...protects-women
"The Missouri House has approved House Bill 1831, which "changes the laws regarding the consent requirements for obtaining an abortion and creates the crime of coercing an abortion." As a Missouri native my initial reaction was to ask what this bill was in response to. I haven't noticed a flood of news stories about coerced abortions here and pro-choice is the antithesis of coercion. But, true to form, this bill is not in response to a rash of complaints by women who have been coerced into an abortion. Rather, House Bill 1831 (Senate Bill 105 is about devaluing the intelligence of women and questioning our ability to make decisions about our medical care.

In the mythical Missouri represented in House Bill 1831, women are fragile gullible creatures that need to be protected from manipulative forces that seek for us to have an abortion we don't really want to have. Under the provisions of the bill a man who asks his partner to have an abortion is guilty of coercion even if his partner was not actually pregnant and never actually had an abortion. A business would be guilty of coercion simply for threatening to reduce a pregnant employees pay and/or cut that employee's benefits. Oh but wait, it gets better! A business would also be guilty of coercion for threatening to terminate the employment of a pregnant employee.

Under House Bill 1831 schools would risk prosecution for coercion simply by threatening to revoke a pregnant woman's scholarship. Terminating a pregnancy resulting from rape would be considered coercion and physicians would face a felony charge for performing that abortion"


And a perceptive comment:
"what I find objectionable about this bill
is its one-sideness. It purports to protect women from being coerced into an abortion, but not women who might be coerced into going to term with an unwanted pregnancy. As the supporters of this bill aren't intersted in the latter, it is obvious their concern for women is bogus.

Submitted by ruthless on April 28, 2008 - 10:03am."

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forester814

Wow. Bush's pretend "culture of life" was scary, but at least we knew it was a lie.

Now, here is a state trying to make it TRUE. And that should TERRIFY people.

It's a short hop from here to a woman's body legally belonging to the state.

garysher

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Grace

Good

OKgrannie

What's good about treating women as though they are incapable of making a decision on their own? It's a throwback to the days when women were thought to be incapable of managing their own property, so they weren't allowed to have any. It's a throwback to the days when women were thought to be incapable of choosing their own mates, so their parents chose for them. This whole business about "coercion" is an attempt to "coerce" women into giving birth against their will.

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The greatest danger to liberty lurks in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.

--Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

Grace

I dont see it that way at all. In fact this will force women to make the decision on there own, so I hardly see how its treating women as though they are incapable of deciding on there own. I have a cousin who had a unplanned pregnancy, and went to PP to go over her options. They made her feel like a piece of trash for not having a abortion right then and there. People who make millions apon millions providing abortions, shouldnt be the ones helping people to make that decision. And how is this making women have children against there will?? That is just plain unfounded, and seriously boarders on propaganda.

waitingtables

Grace, most of what you say is blantant propaganda.

Grace

Look at the pot calling the kettle black

I noticed you have no argument for what I said though

waitingtables

Access to informantion isn't coersion. Planned Parenthood is not the only provider of abortions. Come on, you are just spouting unconfirmed sources to further your own positon. That is propaganda.

Grace

What you call unconfirmed sources, I call a 18 year old kid crying hystericaly over my shoulder after being called "unresponcible" and "uncapable of mothering a child, at her age". This for the mear suggestion that she may want to keep the child. And on both counts they were WRONG. That isnt propaganda, its just plain truth. Believe it or not.