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Old 06-09-2008, 07:34 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Eugenics
–noun (used with a singular verb) the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, esp. by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics).


So scientists who work to rid society of mental retardation, genetic diseases, etc. support eugenics (as you mean the word to be understood)?

If you call being black, or a Jew, or being poor a "undesirable trait" then yep, you got it spot on.



If Scientist encourage people to murder there "undesirable children", then yes, they support eugenics. This isnt rocket science.

I said, "mental retardation, genetic diseases, etc.". Only a very sick mind would extrapolate that to include African Americans, Jews, and the poor.


As for the rest of your post; Would you encourage a woman carrying a Tay Sachs fetus to continue the pregnancy?
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:37 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Cause on one hand its a personal choice, of which its no one biz wether or not they decide to have children, on the other hand its a person trying to dictate who should or shouldnt have children. If you cant see the difference in that, I dont know what else to say.
So it's alright for someone to decide to abort a defective fetus, but anyone who assists in that choice is a 'monster'?




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Old 06-09-2008, 07:41 PM   #93 (permalink)
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–noun (used with a singular verb) the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, esp. by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics).


So scientists who work to rid society of mental retardation, genetic diseases, etc. support eugenics (as you mean the word to be understood)?

If you call being black, or a Jew, or being poor a "undesirable trait" then yep, you got it spot on.

If Scientist encourage people to murder there "undesirable children", then yes, they support eugenics. This isnt rocket science.
Your words, not ours (or Sangor's, for that matter....)
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"To apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted. . . to apportion farm lands and homesteads for these segregated persons where they would be taught to work under competent instructors for the period of their entire lives. . ."


This women supported consentration camps for those who's "progeny is already tainted" She said this Granny, no matter how much you want to believe she didnt. If Hitler didnt expose these same principles for the evil that they are, she would have never changed her tune to be more PC.
If Sanger was such an open racist, WHY when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was given the Margaret Sanger award from Planned Parenthood in '66, did he not only accept the award but said: "There is scarcely anything more tragic in human life than a child who is not wanted. That which should be a blessing becomes a curse for parent and child. Negroes have a special and urgent concern with family planning as a profoundly important ingredient in their struggle for security and a decent life. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Mrs. Sanger." (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abo...alb/MLK_JR.HTM)

If she was in fact a racist, it seems to me that Dr King, of all people, would have refused the award.
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Why are all these quotes completly ignored??
because they are entirely irrelevant.

lots of people on this forum support reproductive choice including abortion. who among them support any kind of program of eugenics ?

quote sanger all you like. if that is your argument against abortion, you do not have a case.
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I think it has a lot to do with who's quoting them.

I agree. You guys hate Christians so much you cant see past your blind hate for it, to see the truth.
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So it's alright for someone to decide to abort a defective fetus, but anyone who assists in that choice is a 'monster'?

You didnt say abort. You said have themselfs sterilized.
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If Sanger was such an open racist, WHY when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was given the Margaret Sanger award from Planned Parenthood in '66, did he not only accept the award but said: "There is scarcely anything more tragic in human life than a child who is not wanted. That which should be a blessing becomes a curse for parent and child. Negroes have a special and urgent concern with family planning as a profoundly important ingredient in their struggle for security and a decent life. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Mrs. Sanger." (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abo...alb/MLK_JR.HTM)

If she was in fact a racist, it seems to me that Dr King, of all people, would have refused the award.

Read the link I provided. She made it a point to draw the support of black leaders. What was that she said "we dont want black people thinking we are trying to eliminate them" something to that effect.
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because they are entirely irrelevant.

lots of people on this forum support reproductive choice including abortion. who among them support any kind of program of eugenics ?

quote sanger all you like. if that is your argument against abortion, you do not have a case.

They are completly relevent. You just dont like to think you have been brain washed into thinking something as horrable as murder, is your "choice", or "right". The same people that funded her then, still fund PP right now. And for the same Nazi reasons that its twisted founder had, eugenics.
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I agree. You guys hate Christians so much you cant see past your blind hate for it, to see the truth.
Sorry, no.

You aren't a Christian.
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