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Abortion How do you feel about abortion? Are you pro-choice or pro-life? Defend your views on abortion in this forum.

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Old 05-17-2008, 10:00 AM   #61 (permalink)
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So the woman decides if she get's end the life of an unborn fetus? That's wrong. The least they could do is put them up for adoption. A lot of people today would love to adopt new born and at least give them a chance at life. It's the parents fault, why should they get to choose to end the life of something because they fucked around? Ready or not, they've got a baby coming, give it a chance at life.
Not really. Most babies up for adoption are black and/or have serious special needs. Most parents who want to adopt want a healthy white baby. I'm just stating facts, so spare me any racist accusations.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:05 AM   #62 (permalink)
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So the woman decides if she get's end the life of an unborn fetus? That's wrong. The least they could do is put them up for adoption. A lot of people today would love to adopt new born and at least give them a chance at life. It's the parents fault, why should they get to choose to end the life of something because they fucked around? Ready or not, they've got a baby coming, give it a chance at life.
Yes, the woman gets to decide. That's not 'wrong', that's nature.

As far as people 'who would love to adopt a new born': There are literally thousands of children in the system who are available to adopt. If they want a child so damn bad, why haven't they adopted one of them? Women who can gestate do not lose their rights to bodily autonomy because other women can't.

Nature gave the woman the ability to end an unwanted pregnancy. No matter what laws you pass, that ability won't disappear.
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Not really. Most babies up for adoption are black and/or have serious special needs. Most parents who want to adopt want a healthy white baby. I'm just stating facts, so spare me any racist accusations.
I worry about people who have SO MUCH LOVE to give a child, but can only give it to a healthy, white infant.

For one thing, it's not going to remain an infant. And what happens if it gets ill?


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I worry about people who have SO MUCH LOVE to give a child, but can only give it to a healthy, white infant.

For one thing, it's not going to remain an infant. And what happens if it gets ill?
That's the way it is. Most of the white babies available for adoption have serious issues. The rest are black babies both healthy and with issues. Very few people are willing to adopt them.

I know alot about this since my daughter is adopted.
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That's the way it is. Most of the white babies available for adoption have serious issues. The rest are black babies both healthy and with issues. Very few people are willing to adopt them.

I know alot about this since my daughter is adopted.

These people remind me of people who want kittens and puppies, but not cats and dogs.



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So the woman decides if she get's end the life of an unborn fetus? That's wrong. The least they could do is put them up for adoption. A lot of people today would love to adopt new born and at least give them a chance at life. It's the parents fault, why should they get to choose to end the life of something because they fucked around? Ready or not, they've got a baby coming, give it a chance at life.
Please don't minimize the effects of pregnancy/childbirth on a woman. If a woman doesn't want to subject her body to pregnancy/childbirth, she certainly shouldn't be forced to be a human incubator in order to hand a baby to someone else.
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Well she shouldn'ta been screwing. Again looking at the statistics. It's mostly single women having abortions. Maybe she shoulda just had a hysterectomy if she was that adamant about screwing. It would save a life.
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Well she shouldn'ta been screwing. Again looking at the statistics. It's mostly single women having abortions. Maybe she shoulda just had a hysterectomy if she was that adamant about screwing. It would save a life.
Whose life would be saved? Whether a woman prevents birth by contraception, sterilization, or abortion, the baby that would have been, doesn't come to be.

BTW, hysterectomy has drastic effects upon a young woman's body, it isn't done on young women for sterilization purposes. No reputable doctor would do it.
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A man and a woman get together and have sex. Neither of them mention using a condom and she's not on the pill. She gets pregnant.

If the woman wishes to abrogate responsibility for that (potential) child, she can do so through abortion...

If a man wishes to abrogate responsibility for that (potential) child, he has NO recourse, currently.

Why?

He should have the same options, as it was a mutual decision (or the lack of one). He should be able to secede, legally and financially, from that responsibility since that is precisely what the woman does when she aborts.
Men (and women) are held responsible for the born children they concieve simply because it is in the interest of the state for them to be responsible.

In other words, regardless of who may or may not have wanted a child, and regardless of the status of the legality of abortion, men (and women) will be held responsible for their born children because it is in the interest of the state for them to do so.

Hence, your argument is essentially meaningless.

And, besides, could you possibly state any cases today where men are being compelled by the state to act "responsible" while their children are being gestated by women?
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