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Originally Posted by Zack  I'm an old person and my dad was born in the year 1905 well before modern view of the subject. He told me that "common law", that our nation was founded on gave the right of abortion to the doctor first and to the father next. Abortion would only take place when either the mother or the child would be determined to die if action wasn't taken by the doctor.
In the mindset of an agriculture culture without mechanical machines powered by engines large families were necessary to support the labor needs to produce food. You either had large families to share in the hard labor of the fields and kitchen or you had slaves. As a result of this reality when a doctor told the husband the choice is either to save the child or the wife, one will die as a result of complications it was up to the husband to weigh which life was more important to the survival of the family as a whole.
Under traditions of human cultures the father gives away the daughter to another family when she decides to marry. This is a concept of family survival and family support, the first male child is prime support for his parents and female children are to support the families they chose to take as their last names. Social Security has broken down this family unit somewhat but most families still follow this traditions somewhat.
Role models of parents have changed a lot since the pre power machine agri culture era along with the rights of women. Women were of less value in the agri culture era and male children insured the elder mother and father would be well taken care of in old age.
In my opinion even in today's culture if a woman is married she must have agreement with her spouse before ending a pregnancy because she has taken his last name in support of his family. | Zack, you are kidding yourself if you think men ever had that much control over the abortion process. You are kidding yourself if you think that women will ever meekly ask their husbands' permission for abortion, although they may discuss it with them if the husband is usually supportive rather than vindictive. HISTORY OF ABORTION Over several centuries and in different cultures, there is a rich history of women helping each other to abort. Until the late 1800s, women healers in Western Europe and the U.S. provided abortions and trained other women to do so, without legal prohibitions. ...... By 1880, most abortions were illegal in the U.S., except those ``necessary to save the life of the woman.'' But the tradition of women's right to early abortion was rooted in U.S. society by then; abortionists continued to practice openly with public support, and juries refused to convict them. The greatest danger to liberty lurks in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.
--Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis | 
05-31-2008, 08:08 AM
(05-31-2008), OKgrannie (05-31-2008)
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