By that defintion, you consider plants "living creatures" So do I, but not everyone does.


Abortion is a toughy, and so is the question when does a zygot become a viable person? Personally, I have had to draw my own line, based on things that have happened in my life, and in the lives of my family. A feotus becomes its own person at that stage when it could live outside of the mother's womb. And most abortions occure before that point in time.

perhaps "creature" is a poor term for a plant, but it is certainly a life form.

the point of the post was to show the logical fallacy of Wows' argument. all life forms are cellular but this does not lead to the conclusion that all groups of cells are life forms. we need to stick to basic logic. something that is often lost in this debate when emotion takes over reason.

You give examples of 3rd world countries? BS. If abortion was illegal in America, the numbers would be WAY down. This is only common sence.

Well we have even more evidence that stopping abortion will save lifes as well. In fact MILLIONs of lives. More lifes than seat belts have ever saved. Here is a fact- cause of abortion there are millions of people that are not here, that other wise would have. There is no way around that.

Grace, outlawing abortion isn't going to stop abortion. There are underground clinics just waiting to open should Roe ever be overturned. There are doctors and other medical personnel ready and willing to donate their time to preserving a woman's right of choice. This isn't 1973 - women aren't going to tolerate having their bodies made the property of the courts ever again.

If abortion was illegal in America, we would continue our slide to BECOMING a third world nation.

one more step down on the evolutionary ladder of education and wisdom.

When facing a jail term they would, most of them anyway. Your going to tell me there isnt a single women who would think twice about having a abortion after seeing their friend, family member, ect ect serve a prision term? Come on now.

Not only that, but I bet people would be far more likely to use birth control.

... not if the pharmacists won't dispense because of their moral qualms

As it is, we are just one step closer to Nazi Germany's form of eugenics. What you call education and wisdom, I call the slaughter of millions of children. And I have the body count to prove it.

I havent heard of a single pharmacist not willing to hand out birth control, that gives you the means of preventing conception BEFORE conception. And if there is such a case, it is a rare, to say the very least.