Again, Grannie is correct. Women aren't livestock. They have a right to choose whether or not they breed. Nobody's "murdering children." A fetus isn't a child. They're terminating their pregnancies before the fetus becomes a child.

And, yes, women should be able to end their pregnancy for whatever reason they choose. Statistics show, overwhelmingly, that women make their decisions very early in their pregnancies....long before a fetus is sentient or viable.

And when you brought up '7 months', she EXPLAINED to you IN DETAIL that abortions done that late were MEDICAL EMERGENCIES ONLY.

Here's her response, to which you were replying to...



Of which I responded to your EXACT response to her explaining to you that the stage of pregnancy you were trying to interject into the discussion was ONLY DONE IN MEDICAL EMERGENCIES.

No if, ands, or buts.

It's not a choice at that stage for the woman...It's a HAVE TO DO TO SITUATION TO SAVE HER LIFE period.

So you're trying to make her express an opinion as to if 'it's ok for women to have abortions at 7 months'?

She's already explained to you that women don't CHOOSE to have abortions at 7 months...That in every one of those instances, it's a MEDICAL EMERGENCY SITUATION that is done in order to SAVE THE WOMAN'S LIFE.

Period Grace. No if, ands, or buts. Cause no woman has an abortion that late in the pregnacy period, unless it's TO SAVE THE WOMAN'S LIFE.

The person here who's making themselves look like a really sick person is YOU Grace. Because any person who understands the 'importance of life' also understands that if there's a choice of both dying, or saving the mother...Then saving the mother is the more important in those types of situations.

But you'd rather let the woman die, just to try to save an unborn baby that probally wouldn't survive either...Then not only is there a dead baby, but a dead woman as well?

Cause you can't seem to grasp or understand that NO DOCTOR, nor NO WOMAN, has an abortion performed at 7 months unless there's an extreme life or death situation involving the woman.

Her life, or both of the lives of the woman and unborn child.

But you'd rather play sematics and have it be the cost of 2 lives instead...

That makes you one sick puppy Grace.

It's interesting that you have such a cavalier attitude toward abortion, yet you think it is barbaric to execute people who have committed henious crimes.

That's OK, but executing a mass murderer is a barbaric act.

It appears that you are in conflict with your own womenhood.

Determination of Death. An individual who has sustained either (1) irreversible cessation of circulatory and respiratory functions, or (2) irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain, including the brain stem, is dead. A determination of death must be made in accordance with accepted medical standards.

-- Universal Determination of Death Act, 1980.

When an EMT gets to a car wreck, they generally don't have a way to tell (in accordance with accepted medical standards) whether the cessation of circulatory and respiratory functions is irreversible, so they try to rescusitate. I mean, if the guy's head is cut off or his heart is lying on the ground ten feet away then yeah, it's pretty obvious that it's irreversible, but in the majority of cases EMTs don't declare death - it's the doctors in hospitals (who have the technology to determine whether there has been irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain) who declare death.

That's one of the best posts I've seen you make. It is so true too.

NO Excuse! They have the morning after pill now too ya know.

Well, don't have sex unless you use birth control - including the morning after pill. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Because many people have very little if it whilst alive.