Actually, she did get that wrong - for women anyway. The definition of life for a mature women is 2 tits, 2 legs, a hole, and a heartbeat. HA, that sure was funny

Which costs money and is often difficult to acquire (since some holier-than-thou doctors refuse to prescribe it and some holier-than-thou pharmacies refuse to fill the scripts).

The morning after pill should be no more expensive than aspirin and readily available at any drug store over-the-counter. But that's not the reality.

Incidentally, that hideous Colorado embryo legislation that's on the ballot this November will render the morning after pill illegal.

You're also dealing with a society that in many cases will provide insurance coverage for medications like Viagra, but not for the contraceptive Pill.

I disagree with it being available "over the counter", because there are potentially serious side effects with it and it needs to be taken in a certain way. Readily available? Yes - but not in an unlimited fashion.

I agree. And that's a huge part of the problem.

Point taken. You're right. However I definitely feel that sexually active women should be able to acquire the morning after pill to have on hand, if needed.

it is always hard to tell where a thread is going to go, but always fascinating.

the issue i originally raised was about when does a human being start being a human being. unsurprisingly there were differing views. if one is going to argue that a human being begins at the moment of conception, i have a few questions.

when is the moment of conception ? when the sperm meets the egg, or penetrates the egg, or the chromosomes start to unpack, or finish unpacking, or the chromosomes first combine? or the cell is first able to divide ? conception is a process that takes hours, not a moment, so when does a human life begin within this process ?

second, if life has begun at the end of conception, why is it ever acceptable to abort ever, even following rape or incest or for medical reasons ? if your argument is that a foetus is human, late term abortions for medical reasons are still killing an innocent human. it is NO DIFFERENT to killing a small baby in order to save the mothers life. also, if life begins at conception, then abortion in the case of rape or incest is NO DIFFERENT to killing a baby born following rape. so presumably you would think it ok to kill a little baby because she was concieved through rape.

if life comes into existence slowly over the term of a pregnancy, then these issues cease to be a problem. we still have a problem regarding exactly when life does start.

cleverly, someone introduced the concept of death. if we can define when life ends, we should be able to use the same ideas to define when it begins. unfortunately, there is not universal agreement on death. there are criteria doctors look for, but these are legal and clinical conventions, not a universally agreed on definition. and the criteria change from place to place anyway. certainly simplistic definitions like the heart stopped is grossly insufficient.

brain activity is probably the best criteria to use, but even this is hard to interpret. how much brain activity is required to be alive? where in the brain? how accurate is the test we are using? should the criteria for the beginning of life be the same as for the end of life ? should appropriate brain activity be a reason to disallow a late term abortion if there are lethal physical abnormalities ?

mostly rhetorical questions i think, sorry to be like this. but thank you to those who have commented here so far.

Human life begins at conception. Two humans are incapable of producing anything but humans, so the fetus MUST also be human.
Is it a human being/person, though? No, it isn't. To be a person one must be born, breathing, and living. You must be independant of the womb, and clearly, a fetus is not, therefore, a fetus cannot be a human being.

Whether a fetus was proven to be a person/human being or not, I would still support the right of the woman to rid her body of it if she chose. It is her right.

Well at least you admit that even if found to be human you support the murder of such. Thank you for your honesty. Now I have to go throw up.

Could you imagine how expensive that would be for many of the slutty women we seem to be breeding these days.

Viagra corrects a dysfunction, nothing dysfunctional about pregnancy. They don't compare.

Abortion also costs money.

It should be legal to acquire though. Price controls on the price should not happen though.