The more education you have the more liberal you tend to be. Interesting how that works isn't it?

Ahem...citation please ?
Could you show me some evidence that "thigh as used in the Bible" is also used to describe genitalia?
And even if so, you wrote that it is usually *male genitalia*, which makes this remote from the abortion discussion...

Even if your information were accurate, that would not be an abortion.
It would be a miscarriage.

It certainly would be - if it were true.
Meanwhile, you haven't responded to my point that Jesus was not "a liberal", which I demonstrated with one of several possible examples (his paradigm of marriage).

And it isn't?

Jesus may be a conservative by today's standards but he was certainly a radical liberal in his day.

Originally Posted by Lidwen Wraith
::It certainly would be - if it were true.::

Hev :: And it isn't? ::

Remember what your English teacher said: don't tell us, show us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lidwen Wraith
:: Meanwhile, you haven't responded to my point that Jesus was not "a liberal", which I demonstrated with one of several possible examples (his paradigm of marriage). ::


Hev :: Jesus may be a conservative by today's standards but he was certainly a radical liberal in his day. ::

Hev, most of the things Jesus reportedly said were things that had already been said by Hillel and other Jewish rabbis. Generally we who were brought up Christian have only recently come to understand that.
More on this later, gotta pick up kids.

... Says the guy that thinks the Illuminati and the Rothschilds teamed up to plan the Holocaust.

I suppose it would be pretty hard to prove. I'm not sure any statistics have been gathered about it.

:: TRUTH ABOUT CONSERVATIVES #1
They're Just As Smart As Liberals

Liberals tend to view people who take the Bible very seriously as yokels opposed to science, knowledge and thinking. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd said the Bush administration is about "replacing science with religion, and facts with faith. We're entering another dark age, more creationist than cutting edge." Novelist Jane Smiley declared the election a triumph for the forces of "ignorance." Privately, liberals friends have told me that Bush voters are "morons," "idiots" and "peanut heads." The idea that red state voters chose Bush because they’re ignorant or uneducated is bigoted, not to mention inaccurate. The least educated voters, people with no high school diploma favored Kerry 50%-49%.

Conversely, most people who are highly educated are quite religious too: 72% percent of people with post-graduate degrees believed in miracles and 78% percent believe in the survival of the soul after death. Liberals can’t mock religious people as dumb when they disagree with them but hail their wisdom when they're liberals like Jimmy Carter. This intellectual snobbery is a major reason why religious conservatives distrust liberal elites. ::

excerpt from http://www.beliefnet.com/story/156/story_15629_1.html

Having a graduate degree or a high school degree doesn't mean you're smart and well-informed. I know a lot of graduates of both high school and college that are dumbasses. I think when it comes to liberalism and conservatism, it gets down to mainly how well informed someone is, and how superstitious they are. Obviously if scientific fact contradicts religious beliefs which were instilled into someone's brain from the moment they were born, that person has a much higher chance of believing the religious explaination for things even if that person is a PhD.

If all you watch is CNN and Fox News for your source of information, then you're really being left in the dark on many issues and you're definetly not as informed.

I dunno... on the same page they say:

TRUTH ABOUT LIBERALS #2
Most Are Religious

A conventional wisdom has developed that almost all religious people voted for Bush and most people who voted for Kerry were secular or anti-Christian. The Republican Party sent out brochures in West Virginia and Kentucky saying liberals wanted to ban the Bible, Dr. James Dobson recently called a liberal senator a "Gods' people hater" and Republican convention keynoter Zell Miller’s said of columnist Maureen Dowd, “You can see horns just sprouting up through that Technicolor hair."

However, not only are liberals not, by and large, Satanic or anti-Bible, they’re mostly quite religious. Voters who went to church monthly split 50%-49% for Bush and Kerry. Those who go to church "occasionally” went for Kerry 53%-47%, while people who attend church weekly went for Bush 58%-41%. More important, 61% of Democrats pray daily, 59% are "certain" there’s life after death, and most believe in God. The spiritual lives of Democrats are, statistically speaking, somewhat less based in houses of worship than those of Republicans but they are believers nonetheless.

When Democrats hear conservatives accuse them of being anti-religion it sounds like what they’re really saying is that Democrats don't practice the right kind of religion -- that they are, as my talk radio friend put it, "a bunch of phonies." This is a direct attack on the nature of liberals’ relationship with God or spirituality.