This is easily the most asinine thread I've yet seen on this board.
It speaks volumes that this person wants all debate about abortion to "stop".
And by the way, the "toenails-are- human-beings" theory was the genius of the abortion-on-demand advocate.
No it is not enough to *just not get an abortion* if you think it kills the innocent. Any more than it is enough *just to not beat your child* if you think child abuse is wrong.
amfliberal, if you can't follow the debate and you get frustrated reading it, then get a freaking hobby. In fact, hurry over to your television, you might be missing "Cheaters".

Irony alert.
Some of us think that abortion for non medical reasons is unjust to a certain group of human beings. AMFliberal thinks we should just not participate in abortion if we don't like it (presumably he would have told the Abolitionists to just not buy a slave if they thought slavery were unjust). AMFliberal adds that we should just shut up about it.
On the other hand...
AMFliberal does not like arguments over abortion. Yet instead of just shutting up and not participating in them, he takes it upon himself to initiate a thread telling people to stop the arguments.
Irony cannot be illustrated any better than this thread.

Well the only problem with that is that slaves were living breathing viable human beings. So no, I would have fought alongside the abolitionists, but thanks for telling me I wouldn't have.

I didn't. I wrote "presumably".
For your information, the prenate is a living human being.
She exhibits all the features of life, including her own metabolism, her own blood type, and her own DNA. She is certainly 'breathing' as in exchanging oxygen, as well as other life functions such as growing, taking nourishment, excreting, and so forth.
After seven weeks she has a beating heart and initial brain activity.
She is well on her way to being 'viable' except if suddenly snatched out of the only environment that can sustain her (at least in the present day).
Just curious.
If you want to argue your views of elective abortion, why did you bother making a post that urges everyone else to "stop"?
Doesn't matter.
I'm going to be spotty here at best in the next few days; I've said almost everything I have to say about it on the tadpole thread.

I mean I didn't think that it was going to actually stop anything and I figured this thread would turn into a debate I was calling to stop. That is beside the point anyway.
She may be well on her way to being viable but she is not.
But once again that's not my point and a statement like that is only going to energize further debate so I will conclude with what I said previously.
It's legal, it's a private choice, and get over it.

Exactly. Just because one person has a certain moral value doesn't mean it needs to be imposed onto another person thereby limiting freedoms. If you think abortion is barbaric and murder, good, a lot of people agree with you, and I tend to be one of them considering the later-trimester abortions. But please, do not limit other's freedoms to do with what they like to their own bodies because of your own moral values.

Abortion is done on unborn children past the point of viability, in case you didn't know.
And even if they are not viable they are alive and have the right to life.

"It's legal" - yeah so what, probably exactly what people said about segregation before Brown vs. Board of Education.
Here's a clue for you: laws can be changed and have been many times.

"It's a private choice" - no it's not because it affects a second life.

"Get over it" - I'll get over it when it's over and it ain't anywhere near over yet.

I don't. Abortion is something people do to another person's body, or have you been too busy repeating liberal crap to notice that.

No problem dude. If it is possible to find legal grounds where the rights of a non-citizen ( that's what a pre-nate is ) supersede those of a living breathing citizen then go ahead.

I think the point being made here is that if laws have to be changed, then do it within a legal framework. Morality is not an argument. Morality is individual and therefore not something that can be debated.

I have to admit i am pretty tired of the abuse pro-choice supporters receive. It's typical that people who support the individual freedom of choice are accused of harboring evil intents towards unborn feti. I think most pro-choice people are as keen on survival of feti as pro-lifers are. The discussion is about how it is to be legislated and about how much a government can interfere with the personal rights and freedoms of a living citizen.

No pro-choice activist would say don't advise against abortions or don't hand out free condoms or don't try and talk a woman out of it. That is all great. But when it comes to the abortion then butt out and let the woman deal with it. We don't want feti to be destroyed. But we do want individual rights of choice to be maintained.

If by some method pro-lifers can convince a court, then freakin great. But stop with the morality bashing.

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Very well said.
A lot of people fighter harder for the rights of unborn non-citizens than for the rights of millions of LIVING people who suffer every day.

George Carlin said, "Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."