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Old 07-28-2006, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You know, some conservatives like to say that liberals want to save everything besides 'unborn babies'. One man said this to me. I replied that it was better than wanting to kill everything besides "unborn babies".
I agree.

It's a shame so many others don't... The world is evolving... some evolve slower than others... They'll catch up or go extinct... either way, just as good.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think Bush's argument is he is not for creating life to destroy it, even for medical reasons. I haven't given this much thought and I don't have a position on it. It's scary that's for sure.
As one of the articles pointed out, your claim is just PURE CRAP.

If you're against creating life which will be destroyed, then you have to be against IVF in the first place.

Alias? Do you have ANY CLUE about what IVF consists of? How many "lives" are "created" (in other people's line of thinking) in order to try and produce ONE pregnancy?
Do you have any clue about how many IVF "lives" are "destroyed" per IVF attempt???

Yet these idiots don't make laws against IVF. They make laws against the research WHICH CAN SAVE lives.


It's like a manager being against food waste. Because he is against food waste, he insists that every amount of food that is actually wasted by thrown in the trash if it isn't sold to a customer. Can't give it to the poor. You have to destroy it or hope a customer buys it.
It's missing the bigger picture of life.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well I believe this was to use blastocysts that already exist, and are already frozen in storage. Blastocysts that will end up destroyed anyway. Why not save lives with these if they're going to be destroyed anyway? Unfortunately Bush doesn't see this.
Bush would rather have all that be "adopted" by willing host uteruses...
... something that IS NOT happening today.

And rather than go to some other good use, he would rather have it go to a non-existent uterus or go in the trash.

Stupidity at its finest.
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Bush would rather have all that be "adopted" by willing host uteruses...
... something that IS NOT happening today.

And rather than go to some other good use, he would rather have it go to a non-existent uterus or go in the trash.

Stupidity at its finest.
Absolutely right.

It apalls me that people who sit on a moral high horse can fight so hard against saving lives.
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Well I believe this was to use blastocysts that already exist, and are already frozen in storage. Blastocysts that will end up destroyed anyway. Why not save lives with these if they're going to be destroyed anyway? Unfortunately Bush doesn't see this.

And anyway, his whole theory on the issue totally expresses his complete hypocracy. He says we shouldn't destroy life to save life....yet, he's so willing to use military action in "pre-emptive warfare" to "save lives", even when over a hundred thousand civilians have died (oh but of coarse collateral damage is supposed to be expected).
The war is not the topic. You're confused enough about things.
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You know, some conservatives like to say that liberals want to save everything besides 'unborn babies'. One man said this to me. I replied that it was better than wanting to kill everything besides "unborn babies".
And you just showed the man how utterly ignorant you are by saying that. I don't know any conservatives who want to kill everything besides unborn babies. Who are they? Name them.
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And you just showed the man how utterly ignorant you are by saying that. I don't know any conservatives who want to kill everything besides unborn babies. Who are they? Name them.
The irony here is that alias probably actually believes the first part of the statement: "liberals want to save everything besides 'unborn babies'".

Because of that, he can't see the irony in taking the previous stupid statement and mocking it with another stupid statement.
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The irony here is that alias probably actually believes the first part of the statement: "liberals want to save everything besides 'unborn babies'".

Because of that, he can't see the irony in taking the previous stupid statement and mocking it with another stupid statement.
Save the innocent and punish the guilty. That's too hard of a concept for liberals to understand for simple reason. It's common sense.
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Save the innocent and punish the guilty.
I agree with that statement.
But of course, the devil is in the details...


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That's too hard of a concept for liberals to understand for simple reason. It's common sense.
Since I'm agreeing with your statement, does that mean you are a liberal?
Or that I am a conservative?
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I agree with that statement.
But of course, the devil is in the details...



Since I'm agreeing with your statement, does that mean you are a liberal?
Or that I am a conservative?
And the details is where you and your ilk get lost because of your political correctness.
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