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Old 08-17-2006, 07:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If the thing involved isn't alive before the 12th week, how can disposing of it be wrong? It's obviously not murder if it isn't alive.

By what standard do you declare it "wrong" before the 12th week?
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'll take pointless responses that don't answer the question for $1,000 Alex...
I did answer your question. I said I would not abort a human being. You just don't like the answer because you have nothing to counter it.
Old 08-17-2006, 09:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I did answer your question. I said I would not abort a human being.
1) Oh. So when you said "I'm not God", you actually meant something else entirely different?
2) That's not answering the question you were asked.
If the thing involved isn't alive before the 12th week, how can disposing of it be wrong? It's obviously not murder if it isn't alive.
By what standard do you declare it "wrong" before the 12th week?

THAT is the question you didn't answer.
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The heartbeat can be heard with a dopler at 11-12 weeks that's not when it starts to beat though. The heartbeat can be seen on a sonogram or ultrasound at 5-6 weeks.
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So we can abort un-born babies, so long as they're not un-born GIRL babies?
So therefore only the boy babies can be aborted?

Wow. I didn't know that...
Stop being such a pin-head and read the article.
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1) Oh. So when you said "I'm not God", you actually meant something else entirely different?
2) That's not answering the question you were asked.
If the thing involved isn't alive before the 12th week, how can disposing of it be wrong? It's obviously not murder if it isn't alive.
By what standard do you declare it "wrong" before the 12th week?

THAT is the question you didn't answer.
I would never abort a human being no matter in which stage of development. That is up to God. I can't be any clearer than that.
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The heartbeat can be heard with a dopler at 11-12 weeks that's not when it starts to beat though. The heartbeat can be seen on a sonogram or ultrasound at 5-6 weeks.
That is right on.
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"By 12 weeks, the 2-1/2 inch fetus weighs 1-1/2 ounces. The heartbeat can now be heard by listening to the mother’s abdomen with a Doppler."

There's where you missed it. That just means that you can now hear it. It doesn't mean that it wasn't there before it could be heard.

Some people will spin anything to believe what they want to believe.
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"By 12 weeks, the 2-1/2 inch fetus weighs 1-1/2 ounces. The heartbeat can now be heard by listening to the mother’s abdomen with a Doppler."

There's where you missed it. That just means that you can now hear it. It doesn't mean that it wasn't there before it could be heard.

Some people will spin anything to believe what they want to believe.
You're right.

And here's the crux of the issue: People like Hevusa DO NOT CARE that this is a pre-born human being. It wouldn't matter if the 120-week fetus could speak to them, in English, and say, "Please don't pull me apart in pieces" - they would still want abortion to be available at any time, any place, at any point of gestation, and for any reason.

It's little more than a seared conscience. Which is pretty pathetic.
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