Originally Posted by foundit66

Admitting it is the first step...



1) What "no answer" have I given to what "question/statement" posed?
2) You'll have to excuse me if somebody who often doesn't respond to "questions/statements" deriding me over supposedly not doing the same doesn't bore me to tears...



I have killed no baby. I'm a gay man for Pete's sake!
Quit frothing at the mouth and THINK...

Originally Posted by foundit66

Hey Alias...
You want to school Jefferson on the policy of Catholics? Or should I?
Yet another of your dumbass comments. Whether it be abstinence, "early withdrawl", the rhythm method, or sypto-thermal timing, it's birth control.


Side-stepping my issue. And for the record, who the f#%@ are you to decide whether or not somebody else gets the choice of choosing some "side-effects"? If they are informed, that's their call.
Back to the issue, if the "Day after Pill" were completely safe, would you be in favor of it or not?
Still another dumbass response. It's not me that saying that the morning after pill is very questionable in its safety. Ever heard of Toxic Shock Syndrome? The Morning After Pill has been shown to cause it. Not my story, not my news. Deal with it.


You're dodging the issue. In those cases where a woman wants to abort before a fetal heart-beat is present, what is your opinion?
I'm not dodging any issue. I'm saying that there are CLEAR SIGNS OF LIFE before most women even know they're pregnant. Even so, ending the life of a pre-born baby is murder. Is that clear enough for your morally-challenged mind?

A logical (and honest) person would have realized/admitted I meant before the END of the first trimester...
It's hard to differentiate between a mis-spelling and the other stupid crap you write.


*Murder* eh? Referencing the law...
Understood.
So what do you do when the law says it's not "murder" in the first trimester?
That "law" has changed over the years, hasn't it? What do you say if it changes BACK?


Actually, I was trying to cover ALL the basis, including the rarities.

Why won't you answer my question?

And for the record, why can't we talk about BOTH the "less than 1%" and the "99%"?



What age? All ages?

I think we would both agree that is stupid to require parental consent before a 17-year old could be given an aspirin...

So why are you hiding behind "stupid"?



Wow. Talk about completely out to lunch.

The government is FURTHER controlling families, parents, and children by allowing a 17-year old to get an abortion without the parents knowledge or without the parents permission.

Does that just sound incredibly stupid to everybody else too?

HOW is that "further control" by the government???



Okay. People CAN keep from getting pregnant.

But if they DO get pregnant, then what? Just tell them that they shouldn't have gotten pregnant, and that's all the pseudo-intelligence we need to apply to the issue?
IF they do get pregnant - which is one of the consequences of sex - they should deal positively with it. Don't murder a pre-born baby just because it was conceived at the wrong time in the wrong way. Stop murdering pre-born babies.

Originally Posted by Jefferson

You really have no idea what you're talking about, concerning abortion, do you?

Originally Posted by Peggy_Sue

Would any of you folks that see nothing wrong with abortion happen to know the effects on children and people who are now adults who have grown up in the 'abortion' age? By effects, I mean the way it has made children feel as they are growing up when they know their mother:
A) had an abortion before or after they were born
B) went to an abortion clinic while pregnant with them, but fortunately changed her mind at the last minute
C) counseled them (if female) to have an abortion when it was against what the young adult wanted
D) etc.

There are people around 30 years of age and younger who are walking examples of deep seated insecurity because of the way they felt knowing their mother aborted their sibling(s) or almost aborted them or told them to have an abortion of their own. Some women who have had abortions end up with a guilt that will not heal itself even decades later. Other women don't develop this guilt and don't understand their daughter's opposition to abortion.

We have the procedure much too flippantly and easily. Many of our citizens are paying the price of that disregard for the sanctity of life with their own mental struggles with security. Just think how insecure a child may feel when he/she first learns what an abortion is and knowing that he/she might have been one of those aborted. A child is completely dependant upon the adults in their life and they look to those adults to protect and nurture them. How would it feel to be 8 years old and know that your mother just sucked your little brother or sister down a drain?


I would never say that all abortions should be illegal; I will always say, however, that they should be much more rare.

Originally Posted by foundit66

You really have no idea of how lame of a response what you just said is, do you?

How about SHOWING ME what I "have no idea" on...

Originally Posted by hevusa

My mother had an abortion before I was born and she said it was the best decision she ever made. Because of this she was able to give me the kind of life she wanted to provide and I have benefitted from it greatly in my life.

I have thanked her for it and she says even though it was tough physically and emotionally it was absolutely the right decision. I am eternally greatfull.