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Old 08-20-2006, 12:54 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Best decision she ever had? Murder is always the best decision you can make...
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:35 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Best decision she ever had? Murder is always the best decision you can make...

It is as much murder as an egg is a chicken. It is a hard decision non the less but ultimately turned out to be right thing for my mother, her future and mine.
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The argument that abortion should remain legal because there might be 50 women who were raped or committed incest is lame at best. We've allowed 49,999,950 perfect babies to be murdered for the sheer convenience of the mother and/or father. America, don't even talk about Adolf Hitler. You don't have the right. Funny, we put a stop to his infamous killings, but kill our own with impunity.
A zygote and fetus are not babies any more than an egg is a chick. It is a personal freedom that everyone has the right to come to their own conclusion about. If you don't agree with it, don't have one. It so happens that society benefits from keeping it a legal option with a dramatic drop in crime.
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A zygote and fetus are not babies any more than an egg is a chick. It is a personal freedom that everyone has the right to come to their own conclusion about. If you don't agree with it, don't have one. It so happens that society benefits from keeping it a legal option with a dramatic drop in crime.
You go ahead and salve your conscience by lying to yourself.

But deep down you know you're endorsing and promoting the killing of pre-born babies. Nice job, Mister Compassionate Liberal.
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Zygote ... fetus ... chicken/egg ... Come on! Take a moment to think about it.

If a corn seed germinates and grows a while there will be a small corn plant. There is no corn yet because the plant is too young but the age of the corn plant does not negate the fact it is a corn plant. Take a piece of its leaf and smash it up so DNA can be extracted from the cells; run a gel electrophoresis on the DNA and compare it to the DNA of a mature corn-bearing plant. Both samples have DNA of corn. The sample from the immature plant does not have DNA of something else such as bluegrass or zoysia or soybeans: it is corn and it is separated from a mature corn plant by nothing but time.

A zygote is a human. It has the 23 pairs of human chromosomes and all it needs to do is grow until it becomes a mature human.


I felt sad when I read your perspective, Hevusa. I understand that justification helps us cope with things and I understand the veneer is thin. I am not saying anything against you or your mother; I am saying I understand the attempts to justify things that trouble us in later years.





Regarding India's policy, as mentioned in the first post:
It seems the one child birth policy in China has come around to bite them in the rear. People needed a male child to help the family work, so there were (reportedly) many female babies left to die or abandoned so the family could try again for a son. This has caused the male/female ratio of China to become skewed, and might be some of the same reasoning behind the new law regarding aborting females in India.

Government intervention caused the problem in China, and may have done the same in India (I'm not familiar with any policy India may have had regarding birth numbers); 'fixing' the problem by more government intervention will likely just make it worse in some other way.
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My mother had an abortion before I was born and she said it was the best decision she ever made. Because of this she was able to give me the kind of life she wanted to provide and I have benefitted from it greatly in my life.

I have thanked her for it and she says even though it was tough physically and emotionally it was absolutely the right decision. I am eternally greatfull.
If your mother had an abortion before you were born, what are you doing here? That doesn't make sense. What you meant to say is that your mother aborted the child she was pregnant with before she was pregnant with you.

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A zygote and fetus are not babies any more than an egg is a chick. It is a personal freedom that everyone has the right to come to their own conclusion about. If you don't agree with it, don't have one. It so happens that society benefits from keeping it a legal option with a dramatic drop in crime.
If you want a dramatic drop in crime, why don't we just abort black babies because percentage wise there are more blacks in prison than whites. That is your reasoning. You have no proof there is a dramatic drop in crime because of abortion. That is pure speculation without statistics to back it up. More of your liberal propaganda. Just like your so-called march in Seattle of 100,000 when you shut it down. Another fantasy. Just like Bush attacking America. Another fantasy. I have to say it....... You are a moron.
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You go ahead and salve your conscience by lying to yourself.

But deep down you know you're endorsing and promoting the killing of pre-born babies. Nice job, Mister Compassionate Liberal.

Yes, I believe the killing of pre born babies is a critical personal freedom to preserve. Same as I believe that killing and eating animals should be available as an option for people.
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I felt sad when I read your perspective, Hevusa. I understand that justification helps us cope with things and I understand the veneer is thin. I am not saying anything against you or your mother; I am saying I understand the attempts to justify things that trouble us in later years.

I feel sad when people's personal religious beliefs makes them want to control other people.

I have no problem with people killing something that is inside their own body. I think abortion is a critical personal freedom to preserve and I do not view it as murder during the first trimester or second for that matter. The world certainly doesn't need more people.

My mother has never felt the need to justify her actions to anyone. She was able to provide the kind of life she wanted for me because of her abortion and it was absolutely the right thing to do.
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Yes, I believe the killing of pre born babies is a critical personal freedom to preserve. Same as I believe that killing and eating animals should be available as an option for people.
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