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Old 09-05-2006, 06:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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But if people are responsible and have access to contraceptives, they can have their fun without creating a life.
Your local store is full of condoms. Go down there and buy some and hand them out.
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Nothing is free. Who is going to pay for the "free" condoms? Let the parents who don't teach their children abstinence pay for them out of their pocket. My kids are all grown and have families.
As long as we're on the subject of paying for "free" stuff, why am I paying for other people's educations?

If you're going to whine about paying for "free" condoms, when condoms are relatively cheap, then I don't think I should have to pay for other people's brats either...

Shouldn't it be their "responsibility" since THEY had the kid and not me?


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Let the parents who don't teach their children abstinence pay for them out of their pocket.
Teaching ONLY abstinence leads to HIGHER teen-age pregnancy rates.
When will that sink into your skull?
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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As long as we're on the subject of paying for "free" stuff, why am I paying for other people's educations?

If you're going to whine about paying for "free" condoms, when condoms are relatively cheap, then I don't think I should have to pay for other people's brats either...

Shouldn't it be their "responsibility" since THEY had the kid and not me?



Teaching ONLY abstinence leads to HIGHER teen-age pregnancy rates.
When will that sink into your skull?
Since it is a public education system paid with by taxes, we all have to pay for it because it is the law.

I don't believe teaching abstinence leads to higher teenage pregnancy rates. I don't want to pay for some kid's condoms. If the parents are going to let the kid have sex, let the parents pay for them or tell the kid to get a job to buy their own.
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Since it is a public education system paid with by taxes, we all have to pay for it because it is the law.
Apply that same logic to your demand for paying for the condoms...
See how simple that was?


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I don't believe teaching abstinence leads to higher teenage pregnancy rates.
Alias, you have been presented with the facts. A variety of states' data has been analyzed, and the FACT REMAINS that teaching only abstinence results in higher teen-age pregnancy.
Whether or not you accept it is irrelevant.
It's the fact.


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I don't want to pay for some kid's condoms. If the parents are going to let the kid have sex, let the parents pay for them or tell the kid to get a job to buy their own.
"let the kid have sex"???

ROFLMAO!
Do you REALLY think that's how it works these days???
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Apply that same logic to your demand for paying for the condoms...
See how simple that was?



Alias, you have been presented with the facts. A variety of states' data has been analyzed, and the FACT REMAINS that teaching only abstinence results in higher teen-age pregnancy.
Whether or not you accept it is irrelevant.
It's the fact.



"let the kid have sex"???

ROFLMAO!
Do you REALLY think that's how it works these days???
Education is a necessity, condoms are not. You're right. Whether I accept it or not is irrelevant. I don't accept it because I don't believe it.
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Education is a necessity, condoms are not.
Tell me. Which is more important to you...

Reducing the teen-age pregnancy rate in this country?
Or enforcing your morality?


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You're right. Whether I accept it or not is irrelevant. I don't accept it because I don't believe it.
Your problem is that you base your "belief" on what is convenient for you.
Based SOLELY on convenience. Not on facts. Often, ignoring the fact that your belief contradicts the facts.

Should we base our school policies based on your "beliefs"?
Or on the facts?
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Tell me. Which is more important to you...

Reducing the teen-age pregnancy rate in this country?
Or enforcing your morality?



Your problem is that you base your "belief" on what is convenient for you.
Based SOLELY on convenience. Not on facts. Often, ignoring the fact that your belief contradicts the facts.

Should we base our school policies based on your "beliefs"?
Or on the facts?
I am not enforcing my morality. Why don't you buy my beer for me? Why don't you buy my bass strings? Why don't you buy me some new shoes? Do you get it?
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I am not enforcing my morality. Why don't you buy my beer for me? Why don't you buy my bass strings? Why don't you buy me some new shoes? Do you get it?
None of those involve a common good for society.
NONE of them.

Helping to prevent teen-age pregnancy IS a common good for society.
Just like education is...

Do you get it?
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Nothing is free. Who is going to pay for the "free" condoms? Let the parents who don't teach their children abstinence pay for them out of their pocket. My kids are all grown and have families.
It costs us FAR more supporting unwanted babies and their eventual devastation of our society through criminal behavior than it does preventing them in the first place. If we can throw 300 billion at Iraq we can certainly afford condoms and birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancy to create a more stable and safe society.
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I am not enforcing my morality. Why don't you buy my beer for me? Why don't you buy my bass strings? Why don't you buy me some new shoes? Do you get it?
Don't you mean banjo strings?

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