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Old 11-15-2006, 09:43 AM   #41 (permalink)
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"I ask the viewing audience. Don't you find it odd that while I am giving SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of how the experts disagree with Observer,"


Odd? Disturbing is more like it. Here are the facts on the ground. With the exeption of a miscarage, Even at single cell form, 100% of the time that forms into a full grow human being. So how can one say that at one time it wasnt a human? It was obvioulsy always a human, but just in the begining stages. These "experts" you talk about MAKE THERE LIVING (and a very good one at that) at the expense of several thousand child deaths per year. There not going to tell you its wrong, cause in there sick twisted liberal minds, it isnt. But like Observer here points out, the truth will be known.
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:27 PM   #42 (permalink)
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"I ask the viewing audience. Don't you find it odd that while I am giving SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of how the experts disagree with Observer,"

Odd? Disturbing is more like it. Here are the facts on the ground. With the exeption of a miscarage, Even at single cell form, 100% of the time that forms into a full grow human being. So how can one say that at one time it wasnt a human? It was obvioulsy always a human, but just in the begining stages.
Have you even read what I said?
I never said that it wasn't human.
A dead body is still "human".
Sperm before it reaches the egg is "human".
Terry Schiavo was "human".

Being "human" isn't enough. There is more at work than just whether or not the embryo is "human".


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These "experts" you talk about MAKE THERE LIVING (and a very good one at that) at the expense of several thousand child deaths per year.
Do you guys get some manual that you work off of to spout empty rhetoric without actually READING and RESPONDING to what people are talking about?
The "experts" I was talking about were talking about WHEN the cardio-vascular system develops in an embryo. WHEN the lungs develop. WHEN the brain starts showing some signs of activity.
These are people who are INDEPENDENT of the abortion issue.

Your response completely failed to realize what I was even talking about.


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There not going to tell you its wrong, cause in there sick twisted liberal minds, it isnt. But like Observer here points out, the truth will be known.
WHAT "truth"?
What ACTUAL FACT was I talking about, quoting an expert, that you can actually refute????

Can you admit that you don't even know what I was talking about in the first place?
You responded to ONE PORTION of ONE SENTENCE without even realizing the context.

Come back to the table when you're up to speed, or start your own discussion material. Don't take one part of a statement from me and pretend you're refuting something when you don't even know what I was saying.
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:29 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Question, how does anyone feel about rape and conception of a child through it?
I have very deep thoughts, but won't give them till I see how others perceive it.
I don't see why the "rape" issue is given any more leniency than any other proposed abortion reason.
A "rape" child is just as alive as a child of a back-seat tryst. From a "pro-life" perspective (outsider looking in), I don't understand how some people can say abortion is wrong, but rape victims are allowed to have abortions.

From my own position, which has some legalized form of abortion, rape victims have the same rules apply.
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Old 11-16-2006, 05:08 AM   #44 (permalink)
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"Being "human" isn't enough."



This is all you needed to say. And tells me all I need to know about you.
Old 11-16-2006, 05:20 AM   #45 (permalink)
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"WHAT "truth"?


The truth is, there are those that will stand before God, and he will lay his vengence apon them for the genocide they have commited to innocents. THATs the truth.
Old 11-16-2006, 06:01 AM   #46 (permalink)
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"Being "human" isn't enough."
This is all you needed to say. And tells me all I need to know about you.
I have a sneaking suspicion that you haven't a clue as to what I was really saying.
Obviously, since you didn't care the first two times I explained it, you're not going to read it if I explain it a third time.


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The truth is, there are those that will stand before God, and he will lay his vengence apon them for the genocide they have commited to innocents. THATs the truth.
Ahhh. So you're referring to your mythology "truth"...
Got it.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:20 AM   #47 (permalink)
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"I have a sneaking suspicion that you haven't a clue as to what I was really saying."


Saddly, I know full well what your saying. You libs are amazing. You preach freedom and equality. You have no problem going to the ends of the earth to make sure gay people can get married, Yet you have no problem with revoking the rights of the most innocent among us.
Old 11-17-2006, 06:21 AM   #48 (permalink)
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"Ahhh. So you're referring to your mythology "truth"...
Got it."


Some things are true. Even when you dont believe them.
Old 11-19-2006, 02:16 PM   #49 (permalink)
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The legal definition of life needs to be brought in line with the biological definition of life. It is absurd to have two definitions, but the legal one is self-serving while the biological definition is fact. Facts are the first things to be tossed out the window by people who prefer to do something else; they twist and skewer the facts and attempt to cloud the perception of what a fact is in others' minds.

Plain and simple, life begins when the sperm and egg unite. Two cells merge into one cell that takes off on a journey of cell division and differentiation.
That is life.

Abortion is the deliberate taking of a life.
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Plain and simple, life begins when the sperm and egg unite. Two cells merge into one cell that takes off on a journey of cell division and differentiation.
So you can buy life insurance for the two cells? I'll be happy to sell you some at a great rate.

If it is a religious/Christian ideal you are relying on wouldn't the mother be sending "the child" straight to heaven? What sin could you commit in the womb? And what better gift could a mother give a child?

The above statements should show you how faulty it is to rely on a theory about God to come to a conclusion about what is moral and what isn't. It doesn't work.
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