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Old 11-19-2006, 05:03 PM   #51 (permalink)
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foundit66: "I have a sneaking suspicion that you haven't a clue as to what I was really saying."

Saddly, I know full well what your saying. You libs are amazing.
Of course you do.
Because I'm a "lib" and that's all you really need to know, eh?

Fine. let's elaborate on what you "know full well".
Terry Schiavo. Was she human?
Should the plug have been pulled?
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:44 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Of course you do.
Because I'm a "lib" and that's all you really need to know, eh?

Fine. let's elaborate on what you "know full well".
Terry Schiavo. Was she human?
Should the plug have been pulled?

If Terry didnt have a Plug to put in, she would naturaly have just died. So Id say what ever her wishes were in that situation would be fine. If they were unknown, then the closes relative should decide. But I dont understand the comparision. How is this relevent to abortion?
Old 11-20-2006, 04:07 PM   #53 (permalink)
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If Terry didnt have a Plug to put in, she would naturaly have just died. So Id say what ever her wishes were in that situation would be fine. If they were unknown, then the closes relative should decide. But I dont understand the comparision. How is this relevent to abortion?
How is this relevant?
You didn't answer my first question.

Was Terry human?
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:57 AM   #54 (permalink)
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How is this relevant?
You didn't answer my first question.

Was Terry human?


Obviously she was. But its a terrible comparison. With out help she couldnt live. But a baby needs nothing more than for you to NOT abort him, or her. Maybe take on some good nutrition habits. Terry needed intervention to live. Unborn Babies do not.
Old 11-21-2006, 05:29 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Question, how does anyone feel about rape and conception of a child through it?
I have very deep thoughts, but won't give them till I see how others perceive it.

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I don't see why the "rape" issue is given any more leniency than any other proposed abortion reason.
A "rape" child is just as alive as a child of a back-seat tryst. From a "pro-life" perspective (outsider looking in), I don't understand how some people can say abortion is wrong, but rape victims are allowed to have abortions.

From my own position, which has some legalized form of abortion, rape victims have the same rules apply.
That was not what I was looking for, but no one else is biting so, why would God breath life into a child that is conceived in this manner?
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:09 AM   #56 (permalink)
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How is this relevant?
You didn't answer my first question.

Was Terry human?
Not if in your definition you mean capable of sustaining life without artificial support...you can't be human and machine...just human...which is why abortion is not evil....if you can't sustain your life outside the womb, you are then part machine...
Old 11-26-2006, 01:33 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Not if in your definition you mean capable of sustaining life without artificial support...you can't be human and machine...just human...which is why abortion is not evil....if you can't sustain your life outside the womb, you are then part machine...
A newborn baby cannot sustain life outside the womb without being taken care of.

Therefore, your "it's not a baby" is pure stupidity.
Old 11-26-2006, 02:55 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Obviously she was. But its a terrible comparison.
It's an inconvenient comparison for you.
It demonstrates PRECISELY what I said earlier. Being "human" is not all that is involved.
But of course, you rushed to judgment without having a clue as to what I was really talking about.


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With out help she couldnt live. But a baby needs nothing more than for you to NOT abort him, or her.
I see.
So we could actually "evict" the "baby", and since it "needs nothing", it could survive by just giving it the food and water?


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Maybe take on some good nutrition habits. Terry needed intervention to live. Unborn Babies do not.
So a baby born at 32 weeks does not need anything extra in your opinion?
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:57 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Question, how does anyone feel about rape and conception of a child through it?
I have very deep thoughts, but won't give them till I see how others perceive it.
That was not what I was looking for, but no one else is biting so, why would God breath life into a child that is conceived in this manner?
"God"?
If "God" were responsible for such a thing, it would either imply a desire to neglect what most would perceive of as "right", or possibly a cruel and vindictive streak...
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:51 AM   #60 (permalink)
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