Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

Now I know I am viewed as conservative on many views...but when it comes to abortion, I think that the woman should have the choice to consider an abortion only within the first 2 weeks of pregnancy.

I am completely against mid-late term abortions. If you really don't want the baby, fine; but let it be within the first couple of weeks.

How do you guys feel about that?? Just my stance..

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

I am a die-hard liberal on most issues.
But I am in agreement with your point of view.
I sincerely *do* believe if the Morning After pill were more readily available, the number of ALL abortions would be cut by 2/3.
Even young women too stupid to know about protecting themselves with either the pill or instance on condoms would be willing to take that pill the next morning.

Originally Posted by OhDear

but while churches are taking up collections for bigger buidlings, cutting edge sound systems, expensive vacations, ummm... I mean short-term missions trips

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

The cause of the problem?

Yes, the cause of the problem.

I thought the problem was abortions ... the cause of abortions is unwanted pregnancies.

Caused by, sexual impurity (most times)


I'm not interested in forcing people to live their lives according to my standards.

Nor am I. But that doesnt mean we cant try to get people outta darkness.

by the way - sexual impurity? Do you have any idea the number of abortions performed on married, monogamous, committed women - for any variety of reasons from birth control failure to rapes? Why are these women "sexually impure?"

No, I have no idea. However, to use abortion as birth control, is as evil as having pre marital sex. Maybe more so.

I should add - I don't believe there is any such thing as being sexually impure.

Well theres your trouble. I cant make you see things you dont want to see, but then what can light have to do with darkness?

You can be a sexual criminal - such a rapist or child molester, etc. But adults engaging in sexual encounters with other consenting adults are simply living their lives as they choose.

And they should have the damn Morning After pill available to them.

So now we should force pharmisists, to become abortionists as well? How many victoms will these unresponcible people bring down with them?

Originally Posted by OhDear

sez JayD

In most cases the cause of the problem is that the woman has no support system in place to carry her and a new life through the challenges they face.

And they knew this before the decided to have pre marital sex. With anything else in life, your held responcible for your actions.



The problem is that it is easy to hold up a sign in front of a building, it is easy to pray for a fetus, but while churches are taking up collections for bigger buidlings, cutting edge sound systems, expensive vacations, ummm... I mean short-term missions trips, they are not overall putting their money where their mouth is to truly help those in need that are facing pregnancy alone.

Oh Dear, I know you meant no harm in this statment, but I gotta stick up for my brothers and sisters who put themselfs in harms way in many countries around the world. I know many folks who fund there own trips to provide medical, and spirtual treatment to the poor and the helpless. All the while in fear that there host goverments dont find out what there doing, and face possible death (or worse). All Im saying is, thats a pretty big brush your painting with, and it isnt right.


Saying: They will never care how much you know, til they know how much you care.

And it is a grievous thing that the church would have to come to be the charitable assistance to a woman with an unborn child,

I feel the same. Churches could do alot more to help mothers. But at the same time, there not responcible for unresponcible pregnancies.

where is the man who shared in the act that resulted in conception?

Most often, he is out of the picture or he might be the willing transportation to take the woman to the abortion clinic...

Your preaching to the quire now. Innocent blood is on his hands as well.


This goes beyond the scope of virginity or purity. This cuts right to the quick of the ones who are counted Biblically as infidels.

I Tim 5: 8
8If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
9No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband,[a] 10and is well known for her good deeds, such as Bringing up children,


OD

Originally Posted by JayD

, I say instead of treating symtoms, we should attack the cause of the problem. Which of corse is sexual impurity.

Originally Posted by JayD

I don't believe there is any such thing as being sexually impure.