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02-22-2007, 12:02 PM
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| Kitchen Enchantress   Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Illinois Gender:  Posts: 3,754 Country: 
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 By the way, been meaning to ask you...Since when does a Christian like you are, suddenly start dancing out in the woods? I'd include the "n" word that Jeff is so fond of claiming you do...But I don't want you to catch a chill nor get Jeff fantasizing again about your bod.... | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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02-22-2007, 12:04 PM
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| Partisan  Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender:  Posts: 8,726 Country:
 | He saw some pictures on my website from YEARS ago when I used to go to a Summer Solstice celebration in Delaware for 10 days. He got all hot and bothered by the photos of ladies in body paint - and a couple of guys without clothes. He seems to think that he has some keen insight into my spiritual life  *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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02-22-2007, 12:09 PM
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ROTFLMAOL!!! Had to have been a group of those neo-Pagans then. And their the few, not the many to say the least. I knew one fella once, who got married in Montana. Him, his wife-to-be, and the priest painted their bodies blue for the ceremony. The invited guests, it was optional. I declined to attend cause the only nude body I want to see is hubby's. ROTFLMAOL!!! And vice-versa. Jeff doesn't seem to have an insight into much. Just his own questionable views. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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02-23-2007, 08:03 AM
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Dont want to touch that one hu Trist? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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02-23-2007, 08:13 AM
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 GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THAT DEFENDS HER.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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02-23-2007, 08:24 AM
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The LORD said to her, "Two nations are in your womb, and two Peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." Job 31:15 Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers? Psalm 22:10 From birth I was cast upon you; from my mother's womb you have been my God Psalm 58:3 Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies. Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. Proverbs 31:2 "O my son, O son of my womb, O son of my vows, Ecclesiastes 11:5 As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things.
Jeremiah 1:5 BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN THE WOMB, i KNEW YOU, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." Luke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Tell me again how the Jews feel about children in the womb? Side note- If you think Jesus was your typical traditional Jew, You have alot to learn. Last edited by Preacherman; 02-23-2007 at 08:33 AM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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02-23-2007, 08:26 AM
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Accualy I asked you. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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02-23-2007, 08:34 AM
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| The bigger question is why would he allow this to happen in the first place. Just asking so please don't shot me. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THAT DEFENDS HER.. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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02-23-2007, 08:40 AM
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02-23-2007, 08:45 AM
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| Preacherman.... Halacha (Jewish law) does define when a fetus becomes a nefesh (person). "...a baby...becomes a full-fledged human being when the head emerges from the womb. Before then, the fetus is considered a 'partial life.' " 5 In the case of a "feet-first" delivery, it happens when most of the fetal body is outside the mother's body. Jewish beliefs and practice not neatly match either the "pro-life" nor the "pro-choice" points of view. The general principles of modern-day Judaism are that:  The fetus has great value because it is potentially a human life. It gains "full human status at birth only." 2 Abortions are not permitted on the grounds of genetic imperfections of the fetus. Abortions are permitted to save the mother's life or health. With the exception of some Orthodox authorities, Judaism supports abortion access for women. "...each case must be decided individually by a rabbi well-versed in Jewish law." 5 In additon: Abortion-related passages in the Hebrew Scriptures & Talmud: The Babylonian Talmud Yevamot 69b states that: "the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day." Afterwards, it is considered subhuman until it is born. "Rashi, the great 12th century commentator on the Bible and Talmud, states clearly of the fetus 'lav nefesh hu--it is not a person.' The Talmud contains the expression 'ubar yerech imo--the fetus is as the thigh of its mother,' i.e., the fetus is deemed to be part and parcel of the pregnant woman's body." 1This is grounded in Exodus 21:22. That biblical passage outlines the Mosaic law in a case where a man is responsible for causing a woman's miscarriage, which kills the fetus If the woman survives, then the perpetrator has to pay a fine to the woman's husband. If the woman dies, then the perpetrator is also killed. This indicates that the fetus has value, but does not have the status of a person. There are two additional passages in the Talmud which shed some light on the Jewish belief about abortion. They imply that the fetus is considered part of the mother, and not a separate entity: One section states that if a man purchases a cow that is found to be pregnant, then he is the owner both of the cow and the fetus. Another section states that if a pregnant woman converts to Judaism, that her conversion applies also to her fetus. Jewish beliefs about abortion | |||||||||||||||||||||
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