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Old 10-19-2006, 06:45 PM   #51 (permalink)
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My wife and I had a child born 6 weeks early. Obviously, the birth was a shock to everyone.
Oddly, she could have legally gotten a late-term abortion just a day earlier. And people like YOU would have claimed that it was NOT a human being that was aborted!
Don't give me this "people like me" crap.
You don't know me.
I'm actually opposed to abortion after the first trimester.
I've explicitly said that before, but people like you can't be bothered with facts. Just generalized diarrhea and a refusal to think rationally about things.
To admit the REAL issues of contention.

"People like me"?
A MAJORITY in this country believe as I do that abortion should be legal during the first trimester.
I don't think you have a clue who "people like me" truly are...
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:48 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Don't give me this "people like me" crap.
You don't know me.
I'm actually opposed to abortion after the first trimester.
I've explicitly said that before, but people like you can't be bothered with facts. Just generalized diarrhea and a refusal to think rationally about things.
To admit the REAL issues of contention.

"People like me"?
A MAJORITY in this country believe as I do that abortion should be legal during the first trimester.
I don't think you have a clue who "people like me" truly are...
I AM going to say "people like you", because you're the one who is SICK AND DEPRAVED enough to compare kidney stones to aborted human beings.

Why don't you try to explain how "non-human" those aborted babies - in th ose pictures - are?

But nevermind, you HAVE to try to salve your DEPRAVED MIND by convincing yourself they are NOT HUMANS. YOU AND EVERY OTHER SICK, DEPRAVED INDIVIDUAL WHO THINKS ABORTION DOESN'T END A HUMAN LIFE.

How's that for lumping all of you SICK, DEPRAVED PEOPLE together? Clear enough, or do I have to elaborate further?
Old 10-19-2006, 06:57 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I AM going to say "people like you", because you're the one who is SICK AND DEPRAVED enough to compare kidney stones to aborted human beings.
Why don't you try to explain how "non-human" those aborted babies - in th ose pictures - are?
Look up the definition of "human" Jefferson.
CORPSES are "human".
I am not saying those fetuses aren't human.
I am saying that they aren't alive.


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But nevermind, you HAVE to try to salve your DEPRAVED MIND by convincing yourself they are NOT HUMANS. YOU AND EVERY OTHER SICK, DEPRAVED INDIVIDUAL WHO THINKS ABORTION DOESN'T END A HUMAN LIFE.
How's that for lumping all of you SICK, DEPRAVED PEOPLE together? Clear enough, or do I have to elaborate further?
< snort >
You get so over-emotional. But I guess that's what happens when your LIES are pointed out.

You talked about me supporting abortion 6 weeks premature from birth date. A lie.
Here you talk about my opinion of fetuses as non-human. Another lie.

If you're going to get so bent out of shape for being exposed as a liar, maybe you should consider not lying ...
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Old 10-19-2006, 07:04 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Look up the definition of "human" Jefferson.
CORPSES are "human".
I am not saying those fetuses aren't human.
I am saying that they aren't alive.
Of COURSE they're not alive, you dumbass!
They WERE alive until a doctor - who had taken the Hippocratic Oath - BUTCHERED THEM.
What are you not able to understand about that?



< snort >
You get so over-emotional. But I guess that's what happens when your LIES are pointed out.
Or, more precisely, what happens when some total dumbass tries to compare butchered, unborn babies to kidney stones.

You talked about me supporting abortion 6 weeks premature from birth date. A lie.
Here you talk about my opinion of fetuses as non-human. Another lie.
No, this is absolutely true.
You are PRO-ABORTION.
What more do you need to do, other try to spin and lie your way out of admitting to the FACT that you are FOR MURDERING AND BUTCHERING UNBORN BABIES.


If you're going to get so bent out of shape for being exposed as a liar, maybe you should consider not lying ...
Liar? Yeah right...
I am pointing out that these pre-born babies were BUTCHERED BY AN ABORTIONIST. You, being the DEPRAVED individual you are, or comparing them to kidney stones.
If you don't want people to be mad at you, don't be such a stupid dumbass.
If you can't handle the heat, get your depraved self out of the kitchen.
Old 10-19-2006, 07:33 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Of COURSE they're not alive, you dumbass!
They WERE alive until a doctor - who had taken the Hippocratic Oath - BUTCHERED THEM.
What are you not able to understand about that?
Oh yeah. THAT is OBVIOUSLY what I was saying...
< end sarcasm >

Can't you make an actual argument without honesty and deceit?
Was Terry Schiavo "alive" when she didn't have brain-wave function?
Should we have preserved the vegetable?


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Or, more precisely, what happens when some total dumbass tries to compare butchered, unborn babies to kidney stones.
"total dumbass"? Like fer sure! <end sarcasm>
Would it help if I typed "overly emotional" in big red lettering?


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You talked about me supporting abortion 6 weeks premature from birth date. A lie.
Here you talk about my opinion of fetuses as non-human. Another lie.
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No, this is absolutely true.
You are PRO-ABORTION.
Oh. So it's not a case of a "lie", but an issue of just too dense to comprehend the difference between what you claimed and what I actually said.
Kind of like the whole "all blacks look alike" mentality, except it's "anybody who supports abortion" is like anybody else who supports abortion.
A guy who supports abortion one day after conception is just like somebody who wants to abort one day before birth, to you...

Wow. You're just incapable of seeing anything for what it truly is...


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If you don't want people to be mad at you, don't be such a stupid dumbass.
You have no sense of perspective.
Do you realize that you are angry with a VAST majority of the U.S.?
It's not just me that supports abortion. A majority support it during the first trimester. And if we're all 'alike' to you, you'll find that it's a very small percentile that is opposed to any form of abortion. The vast majority is in favor of some form of abortion.

That's an awful lot of people you're pissed at.
If I were you, I'ld learn to cope. You can't go typing big red letters at everybody you meet...


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If you can't handle the heat, get your depraved self out of the kitchen.
Jefferson, there is nothing you can dish out that I can't handle.
I've taken your measure and found you lacking.
I don't think you realize how humorous you can be at times...
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Old 10-19-2006, 07:52 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Oh yeah. THAT is OBVIOUSLY what I was saying...
< end sarcasm >

Can't you make an actual argument without honesty and deceit?
Was Terry Schiavo "alive" when she didn't have brain-wave function?
Should we have preserved the vegetable?



"total dumbass"? Like fer sure! <end sarcasm>
Would it help if I typed "overly emotional" in big red lettering?



Here you talk about my opinion of fetuses as non-human. Another lie.

Oh. So it's not a case of a "lie", but an issue of just too dense to comprehend the difference between what you claimed and what I actually said.
Kind of like the whole "all blacks look alike" mentality, except it's "anybody who supports abortion" is like anybody else who supports abortion.
A guy who supports abortion one day after conception is just like somebody who wants to abort one day before birth, to you...

Wow. You're just incapable of seeing anything for what it truly is...



You have no sense of perspective.
Do you realize that you are angry with a VAST majority of the U.S.?
It's not just me that supports abortion. A majority support it during the first trimester. And if we're all 'alike' to you, you'll find that it's a very small percentile that is opposed to any form of abortion. The vast majority is in favor of some form of abortion.

That's an awful lot of people you're pissed at.
If I were you, I'ld learn to cope. You can't go typing big red letters at everybody you meet...



Jefferson, there is nothing you can dish out that I can't handle.
I've taken your measure and found you lacking.
I don't think you realize how humorous you can be at times...
A person that compares butchered babies to kidney stones is depraved and sick.

YOU have compared butchered babies to kidney stones. YOU are depraved and sick.

End of story.

You can reply with your typical overly-verbose diatribe, but it won't change a thing. You are obviously FOR the butchering of unborn babies. Everything you have said proves that that is true. Period.
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Another Jefferson Lie (I've lost count...)
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A person that compares butchered babies to kidney stones is depraved and sick.
YOU have compared butchered babies to kidney stones. YOU are depraved and sick.
And this would be lie # ...
Oh crap. I lost count.

I believe that might have been HEV that made that comparison a while ago.
If you're talking about more recently, then I don't even know what you're referring to.
I didn't talk about "abortion" and "kidney stones"...

If you can find the post where I supposedly did that, I welcome you to do so and I will kindly eat my own words.
I know you won't have the integrity nor the cajones to do it on your side when you can't find me saying that...

Here's a little help for you...

http://www.defendingthetruth.com/sea...searchid=13371
(hopefully that comes up as a search for "kidney" posted by "foundit66". If not, do the search yourself.)

Caught in another lie Jefferson???
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:12 AM   #58 (permalink)
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And this would be lie # ...
Oh crap. I lost count.

I believe that might have been HEV that made that comparison a while ago.
If you're talking about more recently, then I don't even know what you're referring to.
I didn't talk about "abortion" and "kidney stones"...

If you can find the post where I supposedly did that, I welcome you to do so and I will kindly eat my own words.
I know you won't have the integrity nor the cajones to do it on your side when you can't find me saying that...

Here's a little help for you...

http://www.defendingthetruth.com/sea...searchid=13371
(hopefully that comes up as a search for "kidney" posted by "foundit66". If not, do the search yourself.)

Caught in another lie Jefferson???
Okay, I see that it was Dylan who was depraved and sick enough to say to compare kidney stones to butchered babies.

I apologize, FoundIt.
Old 10-20-2006, 11:13 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Okay, I see that it was Dylan who was depraved and sick enough to say to compare kidney stones to butchered babies.
I apologize, FoundIt.
Apology accepted.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:31 PM   #60 (permalink)
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They aren't babies. They are fetuses. There is a difference. If it can't survive on it's own, then it is just another part of the mother's body, and subject to the mother's will.

Oh, and calling your opponent sick and depraved instead of actually debating just proves that you are a crappy debator.
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