Yeah really, now he's just being assinine.

Did you or did you not say that Roe v Wade should not be overturned because it is the will of the people??? By that reasoning one could assume that because Plessy v Fergueson (Decision that established Seperate but Equal), Dred Scott (that established a slave as property) should also not have been overturned. Hence you support the racist point of view. Hence you are a racist. Learn your history, those who forget are doomed to repeat it.

dmk

No the lack of your historical knowledge and ability to draw parallels is what is assinine.

dmk

Oh no, I have the historical knowledge, I am a history buff. And I can see what you are getting at, but it is not a logical or rational conclusion, by any means. You are trying to say that people must feel the same, and consistant on all things in all situations, but that is simply not the case, you can change very minor variables and have a huge effect on how people feel about a given subject. For example. If I were to say I was going to ban pornography, a lot of people would be all for it. But those same people would cry in their coffee and have a tantrum if I said I was going to ban christianity (the real perversion of morals). You like to throw a lot of fancy terms and archaic words around in your arguments to try to hide the fact that your arguments are weak and nearly basless. And that probably works with most people you encounter, the problem is that the regulars on this site are highly intelligent, you are going to have to bring more than smoke & mirrors to pull that shit off with us.

Actually, you're completely wrong. Hev said Roe v. Wade has not been overturned, thus it is the will of the people that it remains that way. The precedents set forth by the Plessy and Dred Scott cases WERE overturned, thus they were overturned because that was the will of the people. Obviously the people didn't just will these decisions to happen, but at some point or another, the collective will of the people influenced Dred Scott and Plessy to be overturned, just as the collective will of the people is keeping Roe v. Wade from being overturned.

Thank you. I felt I was being pretty clear about the issue but it is good to hear my thoughts reiterated.

Cheers.

I can't let such stupidity go unattended to.

Glad to see that. Sometimes it's difficult to address such ignorance. You can't help but wonder how any rational human being can not see the obvious.

Yeah, that's definitely true.

Indeed it won't, until the thing develops a nervous system. I haven't watched the video, but what are they doing? I'm 100% against abortions that are PBA, with snipping the spinal cord and all that fun stuff. Within 2-3 months, you should damn well already know if you're gonna keep the baby or not, and abort then, before it is capable of feeling pain.

Tadpole, I remember you saying the baby has rights once it pops out of the woman's vagina. Does that still mean that an 8 and a half month baby has no rights? It's a fully formed human and is more than capable of living outside the womb, even though it's still inside.

My only stance on abortion is that they should be allowed for any time within the first trimester. After that, the tissues are well on their way developing. To me, the baby is a person when the heart and brain form and begin operation. It happens sometime early in the second trimester, so why not just give mothers the whole first trimester?

They should have already thought long and hard about whether or not theywant to keep it. There's no reason for them to suddenly decide at 8 or 8 and a half months that she can't have it because it suddenly became inconvenient for some reason. 8 or 10 weeks is plenty of time to decide if you ar ereally ready to have the kid or not.