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Old 08-21-2005, 09:58 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.
I'll be completely honest. I don't care what Christ thinks. If Christ wants to dictate policy here on earth, let him run for a political office, otherwise he should go back to tea time with the easter bunny, santa clause and the other fictional characters. Secondly, I am not affraid of any god. If I have not been smited by god yet then either god does not exist, or god is affraid of me (rightfully so)...

Finally, Placing your Christian Dogma into this argument is completely meaningless, if you did not figure it out by my post, not everyone is a Christian. We deal in reality here, not myth.
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.

I have to agree with Tadpole here playfullheart. Christ is a meaningless moral ruler when it comes to an issue of personal morality and pretty much any other case of morality based in reality.
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.
Guess what?

You made that up!

If you didn't write it, whoever did made it up!
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.

I have to agree with Tadpole here playfullheart. Christ is a meaningless moral ruler when it comes to an issue of personal morality and pretty much any other case of morality based in reality.

Nope, he is not! there are 150 million people in this country that believe Him. and that is not meaningless! Maybe Tadpole should sit down with a rabbi and let him explain Who God is . Tadpole is alittle confused on it.
I did start this thread because it seemed a little odd. I checked the freedom of information Act and asked the Department of Defense about finding totals of Soldiers killed in war. And yes I did get an answer!
But the oddest part came when I remembered what the Cultural Revolution tried to convince us was so great and such a reasonable thought. Do you remember," Make love not War". It sounded so great!
WE have killed more 39 million since Roe vs Wade than all the soldiers killed since 1900 til 2005, less than 10 million. Yes, Tadpole I did look it up, but you can ask them yourself, If you really do work for them!
It's oddest when you realize we have killed more for the sake of our own convenice, than the men who died for this country to keep it safe.
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.

I have to agree with Tadpole here playfullheart. Christ is a meaningless moral ruler when it comes to an issue of personal morality and pretty much any other case of morality based in reality.

Nope, he is not! there are 150 million people in this country that believe Him. and that is not meaningless!
Sit down for this one.

More than half (56 percent) of the American public think that UFOs are something real and not just in people's imagination. Nearly as many (48 percent) believe that UFOs have visited earth in some form. (http://www.scifi.com/ufo/roper/05.html)

More people believe in UFO's than Christ. Should we start turning to obduction stories to guide us towards what is moral in regards to abortion?

For moral issues and issues based in reality Christianity is meaningless.
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"For moral issues and issues based in reality Christianity is meaningless. "

Axiom--Weak argument at its foundation. Basic principals of law are based from religous laws...and based on your demeanor I am willing to bet you are alive because of them (et al "Thou Shall Not Kill").
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Axiom--Weak argument at its foundation. Basic principals of law are based from religous laws...and based on your demeanor I am willing to bet you are alive because of them (et al "Thou Shall Not Kill").
Religious laws were based on basic human needs and common sense. Religious laws were invented from this common sense, not the other way around. The basic principals of law would have existed regardless of any religious institution and therefore all religion is meaningless when applying it to reality.

Thou Shall Not Kill is more about having a nervous system than it is about Jesus.
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Also, the 10 Commandments were certainly not the first form of a code of law in history. Hammurabi's code anyone?
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.

I have to agree with Tadpole here playfullheart. Christ is a meaningless moral ruler when it comes to an issue of personal morality and pretty much any other case of morality based in reality.

Nope, he is not! there are 150 million people in this country that believe Him. and that is not meaningless! Maybe Tadpole should sit down with a rabbi and let him explain Who God is . Tadpole is alittle confused on it.
How dare you sir tell me I am confused? I am not. I do consider myself a spiritual person, but I assure you that I do not worship your Judeao-Christian god. I think that god is a sick and twisted god, and I will never again kneel before your god. Ever. What you need to do is accept that we have freedom of religion in this country and that people can worship differently than you. You are the one who is confused.

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I did start this thread because it seemed a little odd. I checked the freedom of information Act and asked the Department of Defense about finding totals of Soldiers killed in war. And yes I did get an answer!
But the oddest part came when I remembered what the Cultural Revolution tried to convince us was so great and such a reasonable thought. Do you remember," Make love not War". It sounded so great!
WE have killed more 39 million since Roe vs Wade than all the soldiers killed since 1900 til 2005, less than 10 million. Yes, Tadpole I did look it up, but you can ask them yourself, If you really do work for them!
First off I am in the god damn Navy, we aren't the fucking record keepers of the U.S. Military, let alone the DoD. I have as much access to the info as you do, no more, no less. Secondly, I don't need to look it up because it's a meaningless bullshit point. Your figures make no more sense and are no more valid than this chart...


You'll have to bring a better argument than what you already have to continue this argument. And next time, leave your half-assed hateful evil god out of it, because he has no role in this argument. I have said it before, if your god wants to set policy, let your god run for office.
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Hello! If you would please consider this. Christ is standing holding a child that has been killed by abortion, He is washing the memory away from a child's face of what they have been throught before they ever saw the light of day. the pain and agony of having their body cut and ripped apart with out understanding of what is happening to them. Christ stands and washes that memory away in the waters of forgetfulness. And you think, Christ does not feel anger for what has been done to this child? When you stand in front of God, you will realize it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.

I have to agree with Tadpole here playfullheart. Christ is a meaningless moral ruler when it comes to an issue of personal morality and pretty much any other case of morality based in reality.

Nope, he is not! there are 150 million people in this country that believe Him. and that is not meaningless!
Sit down for this one.

More than half (56 percent) of the American public think that UFOs are something real and not just in people's imagination. Nearly as many (48 percent) believe that UFOs have visited earth in some form. (http://www.scifi.com/ufo/roper/05.html)

More people believe in UFO's than Christ. Should we start turning to obduction stories to guide us towards what is moral in regards to abortion?

For moral issues and issues based in reality Christianity is meaningless.
Hell yeah! I absolutely agree. The Christian god is hardly anyone to try to learn morals from, if you read the bible you realize pretty quickly that the Christian god is a sick and twisted fuck.
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