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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 396
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Like I said, "better try another perspective" while you have the opportunity. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Oh, and by the way, your wonderfully loving presentation of the 'word' is what inspired me to write. Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Secondly, I have judged no one. I simply stated a truth. I'm sorry you misunderstood and perhaps felt "judged". Thirdly, not understanding depravity shows you are indeed blind to it. Pulpit? ROFLMAO!! Hmmm. Where did I present the 'word'? But I'm glad you were inspired even if the inspiration was misguided. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| So you are saying the immorality you speak of is just of your own opinions? Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Community Leader ![]() Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New England Shoreline Gender: ![]() Posts: 865 Country: ![]()
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You are not entirely a product of your own making. No one is. So, in a way, we are all connected, because all of our lines intertwine with everyone else and every living and non-living thing in the world. Every action does have a natural consequence. Whether we choose it to be positive or negative, it is going to affect the whole world. You choose to give it your own set of values and attribute it all to a higher conscience. I do not. I believe that all life is natural as is all consciousness. Not attributed to the supernatural with a natural order, but an infinity of possibilities of which our existence will only lead to one. I do not believe it is predestined. I do not believe our consciences will exist on beyond our deaths, but I do believe that our lives will ultimately affect all that will be after us. Therein, I find our immortality. Our Task must be to free ourselves... by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures, the whole of nature, and its beauty. Albert Einstein Hans Küng: "There will be peace on earth when there is peace among the world religions." | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Community Leader ![]() Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where Snoop Dogg is from, CA Posts: 657
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I disagree. One cannot choose what they believe. You either believe something or you don't. No amount of will can change that. If you offered me a billion dollars if I believed in elves tomorrow, I would still be unable to believe in them. Again, if you offered me a billion dollars to not believe that Creed is a terrible band, I would be unable to change my mind. When the president talks to God Do they drink near beer and go play golf While they pick which countries to invade Which Muslim souls still can be saved? I guess god just calls a spade a spade When the president talks to God | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Seriously, that has got to be just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What in Sam Hill do you go to school for? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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I happen to be a evolutionist and a humanist in my beliefs so alot of what you believe concerning our individual ends, I agree with. I think I have a great sense of right and wrong and I think abortion should be for people who are at risk from having a baby and for rape victims, only. Birth control is a very easy measure and if you are stupid enough to make a baby 'by accident' then you should be prepared to raise a child and stand up and take resposibility for your actions. Our population is exploding world wide and here in America. Proper education is the key to keeping the population below a dangerous level, not abortions. As for the baby, if the egg and the sperm have formed a entirely different form than who is to say if this form feels anything? We do not know at what stage consienceness or feeling are present. Presently, we can not possibly know these things. I think it is our moral duty to present laws and mandatory education that would enable poor parents to be good parents. You need a licence to drive a car in this country, or even to catch a fish, but anyone is allowed to be a parent. Did you mean paying for abortions or are we now talking about U.S. policies? As for this, I never thought us going into Iraq was a good idea. The U.N. said from the start that there wasn't enough evidence of WMD and they were right. This is the original reason given for going into Iraq. I do not agree with most of this administration's decisions but I feel correction of the given situation must start here in the U.S. by legal means. I am proud to be an American and what this country has always stood for. I think our country has strayed from the path our founding fathers put us on but I also feel there are a lot of different factors involved, that weren't present at that time, to consider. As for a sense of right and wrong, this is an opinionated concept, like it or not. How you see the world as an individual is really where we get this sense. To say this doesn't come from your opinion, if you are not using your religious training, seems incorrect to me. As for the U.S.'s immorality, to say this is the reason why we will continue to pay is kind of an opinionated statement. Either this is your belief or it isn't. Did you mean Karma or divine intervention or dangers from terrorists? Please explain this to me. Also let me know if I was off base or topic, about the government, and you were only applying your words to abortion. Really, in the end, our individual opinions form our veiw of how our country is handling itself and give us our own sense of right and wrong. Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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