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Old 02-08-2007, 04:35 PM   #71 (permalink)
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what does being homosexual have to do with it?

you seem so concerned about 'homosexuals' "intentionally lying" - what difference does it make?
Why do you intentionally lie to the American Red Cross?

Do you think you're above the law?


Justify your sick, demented behavior!
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:37 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Has anybody ever read a post from Jefferson that wasn't insulting, laden with slurs and hateful messages, and approaching the intelligence level of a fifth grader?

If so - please provide link
Has anybody EVER found good reason for a practicing homosexual to intentionally LIE to the American Red Cross?

Is there EVER a good excuse for that?

Is there ANY reason to be so callous toward innocent, vulnerable people that you would intentionally put them at unnecessary risk, all for the sake of stroking your own ego?


Would ANYBODY defend me if I had AIDS, and ran out & raped 50 teenage girls and infected them?
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Like I said, even given YOUR assumed time-line, it's still horrific and indefensible. However, as to the 36-month period, you can do some research, or just use the "search" feature here.

It would be no different then if I had AIDS, and went out and raped 50 teenage girls.

Would you defend that?
I'm sick of this. I've argued with you about this at least three times. Here's my evidence. Accept it or rant about me being an idiot, but here it is.

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"Antibodies generally appear within three months after infection with HIV, but may take up to six months in some persons."
That's the CDC's statement about the window period.
SF AIDS Fdn: HIV Testing

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Currently used antibody tests are more sensitive than those used in the past. Most people will develop detectable antibodies by 30 days after infection with HIV 1,2. Nearly everyone who is infected with HIV (99%) will have antibodies detected by 3 months after infection 3. Rarely do people take longer than 3 months, but it can happen 4.

Update on the HIV Antibody Test Window Period

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In an unpublished study of 51 health care workers infected through needle sticks the median window period was 46 days and the mean was 65 days. Two of the 51 did not seroconvert for more than six months. According to Dr. Michael Busch, who has published many articles on blood screening, this means that 50% of people infected with HIV will develop antibodies by 46 days. At three months about "85-90%" of patients would develop antibodies, and by six months "over 95%." As you can see, the difference between a test at three months and a test at six months is minimal. For most people who had some risk, but are not certain they were exposed to HIV, a test at three months is enough. To be more certain, you should wait until six months. Do not test at one month, because you will need to retest and this is a waste of resources.
Receiving donated blood -- what is the window period for HIV showing up in the blood?

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Old 02-08-2007, 04:39 PM   #74 (permalink)
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defend you?

I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
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I'm sick of this. I've argued with you about this at least three times. Here's my evidence. Accept it or rant about me being an idiot, but here it is.

That's the CDC's statement about the window period.
SF AIDS Fdn: HIV Testing


Update on the HIV Antibody Test Window Period


Receiving donated blood -- what is the window period for HIV showing up in the blood?

Need I post more?
You're only posting PART of the VAST array of medical evidence on the subject.

ALSO, you're refusing to answer a simple question: Do you defend the actions of somebody who knowingly lies to the American Red Cross, and puts vulnerable, innocent people at unnecessary risk?

Yes or No.

Do you defend that behavior?
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What does this have to do with lying to the American Red Cross in order to knowingly give blood that they do NOT want - because it's at high risk for being infected with HIV/AIDS?

Point blank: ARE YOU DEFENDING THE ACTIONS OF A HOMOSEXUAL INTENTIONALLY LYING TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS?
I was referring to your statement that I believed the Red Cross was homophobic, which I do not. You're the one who ignored what I was responding to and said, "This has nothing to do with it!" Well, news for you, neither did the argument you put forward which I responded to!!!
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antithesis - he knows all that. It's been proven to him many times in the past six months. We're just sick of posting the same thing over and over again. He's just having his daily temper tantrum - just as in the video I posted.

He's just a nasty, mean-spirited, friendless, bitter, angry, hateful creep. He doesn't care about facts, truth or honesty. He merely wants to spew insults and write hateful messages.

Can't you just seem him, sitting in his momma's basement, pounding out his angry posts with two fingers, going a mile a minute, with steam coming out of his ears? LOL
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I was referring to your statement that I believed the Red Cross was homophobic, which I do not. You're the one who ignored what I was responding to and said, "This has nothing to do with it!" Well, news for you, neither did the argument you put forward which I responded to!!!
So then you ARE defending a homosexual that intentionally lies to the American Red Cross in order to put innocent vulnerable people in harms way.


Perhaps you'll be a parent some day - and your child will need blood. Perhaps at that time you'll begin to open your eyes.
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You're only posting PART of the VAST array of medical evidence on the subject.

ALSO, you're refusing to answer a simple question: Do you defend the actions of somebody who knowingly lies to the American Red Cross, and puts vulnerable, innocent people at unnecessary risk?

Yes or No.

Do you defend that behavior?
I am posting a general consensus by various reliable sources (the CDC, for example, which is charged with knowing the truth about disease). Because they are reliable, I consider them truthful.

And in response to your question, which is, by the way, prejudiced for the sake of your case, yes, I defend his actions because people have a far greater chance of having their life saved than being infected when it comes to his blood, but I do not believe he was putting lives at risk.
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I am posting a general consensus by various reliable sources (the CDC, for example, which is charged with knowing the truth about disease). Because they are reliable, I consider them truthful.

And in response to your question, which is, by the way, prejudiced for the sake of your case, yes, I defend his actions because people have a far greater chance of having their life saved than being infected when it comes to his blood, but I do not believe he was putting lives at risk.
Enough said.

Come back and tell me that 15 years from now, after a child of yours has died from AIDS after receiving infected blood.
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